High Elf Denial

Exactly as I said: You fail to understand. What You’re asking for is not sharing - it’s taking something away.

And than the OP can ask the same question , but word it like this :

Why do we have Orcs and Maghar orcs ? They are the same race and model . Same faction even .
Why do we have Draenei and Lightforged Draenei . Same as above .

Because the flavor is different and you get different racials .
I kind of think that we should have Erdar too , because they are demons , with demon racials .The red skin is kinda meh and lacs customization .

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Would blood elves magically vanish if the alliance got a playable race introduced to their faction back in vanilla?

No.

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I would like to shatter the opposition against Alliance high elves with some facts:

1.) In MoP, DF and now TWW we got 3 new races in total, that can join both side, yet remaining the same race, with same starting zone, racials, etc. Then, if you are okay with this, but say that alliance high elves are unneccesary, or would break balance because there are already blood elves, then you contradict yourself.

2.) Character fantasy. For those who focus on m+ and rio point farming, or collect the cute transmogs, the background of the playable character doesn’t mattter. For them, I collected the facts why void elves can’t substitude the high elves we want:

  • The obvious general void-lover background story, and the starting zone being in a Light-forsaken floating rock in the middle of literal nowhere
  • Void elves have a little voidish reverb in their voice, which can’t be swithched off
  • Even if you get a visual look, that resembles an uncorrupted (never turned to fel or void) Alliance high elf, like this:
    https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/arathor/artimiszia/
    all of their racials, hunter starting pet breaks any immersion, especially Spatial Rift, that puts your character in avoidform like purple state, and you can’t switch it off.
    -Void elves can’t be paladins, and they never should be (you are either filled with Light, or Void)

The wanted options:

  • Old lore-friendly background, the remainig loyalist high elves from the Silver Covenant and from the many lodges scattered around in the Eastern-Kingdoms band together and form an alliance, the starting zone being a lodge, forex in the Hinterlands for roouges, hunters and warriors, for paladins, priests and mages the new base of the Silver Covenant
  • The racials should reflect on the race-faction combo fantasy, like having bonus for inscription, 3 min cd ability called perception that can sense hidden traps, or treasures, 1% resistance to arcance magic, hunter starting per either a lynx, or a hawk.

As you can see, we want more dpth to the race, not just some cosmetic stuff, which is easily be broken.

I hope I could deliver this to you in a good and comprehensible manner.

Cheers to you all!

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So Worgen for Horde? :slight_smile:

I’ll trade you alliance tauren.

At this stage if we are very lucky the faction tensions that will supposedly get worse before the expansion ends will involve an ill-fated attempt by the tiny band of Alliance High Elves still alive to take over Silvermoon since Dalaran was destroyed and most of the miniscule number left that is the source for this persistent nonsense is wiped out.

Perhaps that is something those of you who argue for a duplicate of a Horde race need to be careful of. Even though my scenario is obviously highly unlikely, perhaps the ‘unification of the elven tribes’ might see the Alliance High Elf story end in some fashion. Blizzard is clearly more interested in the dichotomy between the light (blood) elves and void elves anyway. Perhaps now is the time they exit the stage rather than linger as a frayed loose end.

Maybe.
But the truth is: Blizzard made a mistake all those years ago.
Blood elves should have never been a thing. Draenei were supposed to be ‘broken’. That would’ve been a perfect race for the horde; hunched over, ugly.

And then alliance could have had high elves. That would’ve been a much better fit and would have made way more sense.

But oh well, what happened, happened.

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hahaha

The story of the High Elves is just beginning!

your 18-year history is coming to an end :tipping_hand_woman:

The time of the High Elves of the Alliance has come! True and untainted :blue_heart: :white_heart: :blue_heart:

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Because the Horde can’t have nice things, WTF?!

Even storywise it wouldn’t make sense. The Broken are still very much followers of the Light and their old ways of goodness, they wouldn’t fit into the Horde. However, the Blood Elves, taking power, arrogant, superiority complex. Perfect fit for the Horde.

Also their last interaction with the Alliance, was them trying to use them as Cannonfodder. While the Horde had Sylvanas, a once revered Ranger General there to vouch for us.

The horde was always about these outcast tropes and fighting to survive. :dracthyr_shrug: If you don’t think those are ‘nice things’ you shouldn’t be playing horde, my friend.

And? Forsaken have priests. Trolls have priests.
And the horde in WoW is not evil. I don’t understand why some people don’t get that.

Did you even play Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne because that explains why things have panned out the way they did

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I did play it, yes. And no, it doesn’t.

And fel magic addicted elves despised by Night Elves and used as cannon fodder by Garithos fit the bill.

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Forsaken priests are lorewise 99% Shadow priests, with a very few rare example able to still wield the Light. Troll Priests are basically Hex Doctors, but since blizzard doesn’t add Race-Class flavour, they’re just lightwielding priests.

But nowhere ingame, or in the story do we see a major faction of Lightwielding (Darkspear) Trolls. Not untill the introduction of the Zandalari was The Light wasn’t really something Trolls used, outside of Players.

Look I get you want them but there is nothing in that response that makes sense. Remember the uptick on this topic was caused by you NOT getting them as a race two weeks ago.

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You’re applying a subjective standard to the story because it showed why the High Elves left the Alliance ( the second time they had left).

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I’m saying they should have never gone with that whole plot. No fel addiction.
And Garithos was just a man. The high elves were above spewing hatred to an entire race because of the actions of one guy.

Want me to continue with examples? There’s plenty of light on the horde. The horde is NOT dark and evil. No matter how much you want them to be.

But they did and the plot was praised at the time as a fresh spin on some tired old tropes. You dislike it because it led the High Elves to the Horde.

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You are applying a subjective bias because you like blood elves. :sweat_smile: