There’s nothing unique on natural hair, many other races have it.
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We are talking about a race that shares the same skeleton here. Sharing the same skin color is one thing… and it’s ok so far. But sharing the same hair color is another thing, and it makes them too similar. Especially since blizzard decided to give the blood elves blue eyes too.
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I think the horde is kinda overreacting here as Landrien said there Normal hair colors and blizzard said their High elf customizations s you kinda think they would add normal hairstyles to them.
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I guess we will wait and see what blizzard decides. It’s Beta so we can’t tell from now what is certain. When Shadowlands comes, we will have this discussion again. 
Don’t worry we will get normal hair colors it’s like a given at this point. xD
But I want to be able to control my void form. I would love to use it all the time in combat. Alleria can control her form at will. So why can’t we do that.
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That’s the point here. So BOTH sides could get the High elf aesthetic not just one.
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Feels a bit ironic to post this and then in your next post call other people entitled. But yeah everyone should just work together to get what you, I mean we want.
Doesn’t feel like the high elf diehards will ever be happy anyway, at least not as long as High Elf isn’t a specific playable race. And I don’t see it happening that they will have two Thalassian elf races on Alliance, in addition to one on Horde. Blizzard kind of painted themselves into a corner on this one.
Void elves were always more polished than Nightborne and they are getting a lot more stuff now too. Nightborne needs a lot of work, and while having both would be nice I take issue with insisting that making “high elf fans” happy, assuming such a thing is possible, takes precedence over everything else.
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They looks so good and the heritage armor is amazing. I ended up faction changing my warrior for grouping reasons but if I could have just kept her as Void Elf but on Horde I would have done that.
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If you really hate the void form, just macro a /cancelaura into every rotation ability. It reduces your dps by a little, but it works.
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I feel like the racial leaders(alleria isn’t really the void elf one) should retain a degree of uniqueness like how Anduin is a priest in plate with a sword that splits in two or Lor’themar is a ranger mage, Turalyon is a human Lightforged, Tyrande is a priest/balance druid, Sylvanas is a banshee elf, etc
that whole ‘race leader is X so we should be too’ doesn’t really float that well
Well…it kind of is. I mean I’m fine with hairstyles and more natural colours, but by definition it is asking for something that currently is the province of a different player race…
All of the nope. They’re -Void- Elves, plus what even -is- a Light hair colour as opposed to a Void one? Why would Void Elves have them? Blood Elves don’t, and they actually -have- clergy of the Light and Paladins.
Sounds reasonable.
How many times do we see this? “Alleria has ranger tattoos so High Elves should have them”
They are not an exclusively High Elf thing. Alleria is a lore character, who did a really famous thing.
She left Azeroth -before- the Exile happened. So just because she has warpaint does not make it a High Elf only thing.
Lets look at the facts.
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The High Elf Rangers in WC2 have warpaint. Taking averages, 90% of them died during WC3, of the surviving 10%, 90% of them are now Blood Elves. Given how prevalent they are in Thalassian society it is probably fair to say there are more Blood Elf -Rangers- alive than there are High Elves as a whole.
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Kael’thas has facial markings from the TBC box art. He was pretty famously a Blood Elf.
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Rommath has tattoos, again, famously a Blood Elf.
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Alleria never actually had to make the choice whether to be a Blood Elf or a High Elf, as she left before the Exile, so any warpaint or tattoos she wears are -not- linked purely to Alliance High Elves, as when she left, there was no distinction, Everyone was just a Thalassian Elf.
So no, warpaint as a customisation specifically for Alliance High Elves, or Void Elves who look like High Elves is not a good suggestion unless it is equally rolled out to Blood Elves (In which case, y’know, fine)
Amusingly despite fighting the Horde in WC2 the Rangers wore red warpaint…
But yeah, it looks like Warpaint was a Ranger thing. 90% of those who survived the Scourge are now Horde Blood Elves.
Stop asking for it as a ‘High Elf’ thing. It isn’t.
Ehh, I think if Blizz are serious about this being an option for those that wanted High Elves, there isn’t actually anything wrong with giving them more natural hair colours, its not going to do any harm really, is it?
Whilst I don’t personally have an objection, I think it is dicey to make such statements. It’s not ‘like a given’ at all. It would make -sense-, but its not a given, the simple fact is we just don’t know yet.
Because Alleria is strictly speaking, not the same as the player character Void Elf, the way they came to be was entirely different. Alleria is thus far completely unique. She’s similar to Nathanos, the circumstances as to what they are and what they look like are completely unique to them alone.
At least people have stopped asking for Paladins! runs and hides
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Diehard or not, i’m happy with High Elf customization for Void Elves and i’m not the only one here, as a lot of positive feedback has been given regarding that.
Because Void Elves are recolored Blood Elves, and Blood Elves always had the best model in the game, when you take the best model in the game and slap different colors on it you end up with the best model in the game in different color.
The only thing announced for Void Elves so far are skin and eye color, and that’s because it still beta, and Ion stated the team will focus on Allied Race customization only after they are finished with the Core Races, and they going to be released on later patches of Shadowlands, so, expect Nightborne and other Allied Races to be the focus of their work after release, and we’re still far from it.
“But Void Elves got a lot of stuff way earlier, that is not fair!”
A few eye colors is all the work they put on the Void Elves so far, the rest they just copied over Blood Elf skins on them, they are not fresh and new work, as it’s evidenced by the fact they still have Blood Elf underwear.
Blizzard did this because giving Blood Elves blue eyes, which is perceived as a High Elf look, would make Alliance players and High Elf fans upset, and rightfully so, imagine requesting and desiring something for years just to see it being given to the opposing faction. So, it was damage control, by announcing early on that they want to give Void Elves the High Elf look, they prevented a lot of unrest.
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I never said I hated it. That’s why I want to be able to control the form because I LOVE it.
She is a void elf. Just because she looks like a high elf doesn’t make her any less of a void elf. Any elf infused with the void is a void elf. She herself came up with this name and in the new book she’s again described as a Void Elf.
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As a High elf fan myself (who is planning on maining a Void elf for Shadowlands) I feel like the normal skin color is enough for me. I don’t really care about natural hair Especially not blonde.
I did care about it once upon a time, but nowadays I kinda see the Blood elf argument. Having blonde hair although would make the High elf thing complete in terms of looking like Alleria, they would look awfully similar to belfes (minus eye color). But even then blizzard decided to give them blue eyes so…
The closest thing to a normal looking high elf we can do based on the customization we are shown is this:
- Grey hair
- Normal skin
- Blue eyes
- either the braid, or the long hairstyle covering one of the eye
And you’ll basically have a High elf look outside of combat. That’s what I’m planning to do. It will look very similar to Vereesa but with a different hairstyles.
At the end of the day I feel like we are having this discussion waaaaay to early. We need to wait until Shadowlands comes, and then decide if it’s enough or not. The customization added to the core races and allied races are not done, we are in beta. It’s something people keep forgetting that’s why this conversation keeps going.
Not sure if this reply is supposed to counterargue my post or if you’re quoting things for the purposes of a general info dump, going to assume the latter.
You’re right, maybe i should’ve just said i was happy with what we got for High Elves, but i got a little too far.
I understand that, but the whole argument of hair color goes to the space when you have other races with natural hair colors and very importantly, a way to cover it through head pieces. If you simplify the differences between Void Elves and Blood Elves just to hair color, then a simple thing like a hood or a helm can break your point.
There’s more difference between Void Elves and Blood Elves than that. Even the visuals, you still have different skin colors, hair styles, eye colors.
Their starting zone, their themes, their voice and voice lines, racials, mount, set, and most importantly: Their faction. Being in a different faction makes all the difference, why Void Elves can’t have some natural hair colors (which no one says they need to be the exact same tone as the Blood Elf ones) because of the Blood Elves when we have Pandaren, which look exactly the same in both factions.
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I understand your point but really their just hair colors and I think we have a right to them because their also high elves. People might not agree with us but they need to understand that. And their basically gate keeping hair colors now.