High Elves in 12.1 šŸ’™

But will the High Elves really bring more variety considering they’re virtually identical to Blood Elves to the point NOBODY can tell a difference in universe?

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There’s no actual sane discussion here, just more haters showing up with the same tired arguments. Oh, and of course, a dh clown came along trying to troll - though he’s doing a terribly weak job at it :woman_tipping_hand:t3:

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Well according to some statements they’re so different, they desperately need separate slot in creation screen.

If High Elves are meant to be a separate race, or allied race, then they should have distinct visuals and looks comparing to Blood Elves (former High Elves).

Proposals for High Elves are mostly pure nostalgia from WCII or III era.

Both factions have already playable High Elves. That missing part what people are requesting can be done by new customization witihn existing races, or make all Thalassian Race one with variety of customizations and option to join eithe Horde or Alliance.

Yes, just the same way Void Elves, Dark Iron, Earthen bring variety. In armor you can’t easily tell them apart from their core race / skeleton - but the difference is there.

Whether it’s due to allegiance, cultural or racial features. There’s enough story and reason for them to exist as a separate entity.

What you’re saying is not a valid argument since we have several identical races on both factions.

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I beg to differ. Even if people won’t agree on every single word or opinion, it doesn’t mean the discussion is not sane or should be stop.

That’s the purpose of forum discussions.

I don’t expect people to agree with me on 100% things I say. I am just providing my own opinion on matters presented here.

Maybe you as HE fan should be more active in thread you created, providing your ideas, discussing possible options and outcomes.

Guys, I really don’t get you. If High Elves annoy you, if you don’t want to see them in the Alliance, etc., then why are you coming into this thread and leaving your comments? Is this some kind of masochism or what? :thinking:

If a WoW thread isn’t interesting to me, I won’t even open it, read it, let alone comment

Actually, you’re just helping make the High Elf threads more popular and hype them up - so, thanks :grimacing:

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They always ignore all the reasonable points that are made - just to be contrarian.

They seem to not understand that properly added High Elves (As an Allied Race or through Customization like the Eredar) would be a win for everyone - Blizzard introducing further nuance and improving their character selection allows for more races to see the spotlight.

Whether it’s High Elves, Ogres, actual Forest Trolls, etc.

They’re just too shortsighted.

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Yes :grin:

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Except we don’t. Nobody will confuse Dark Iron and Wildhammer/Bronzebeard Dwarf unless they’re fully armored in Universe. Void Elves have a distinct Reverb in their voice and show signs of Void mutation.

Such distinction does not exist between High Elves and Blood Elves because they’re physically the same race. Voice, mannerism and sense of Fashion, you’ll be hard pressed to see a difference. Which is why it’s very freaking easy to insult the High Elf by assuming they’re the more common Blood Elf.

Pandarens, Drachtyr and Earthen aren’t distinguishing among themselves based on the faction unless the warfare happens and then those involved will wear symbols of their allegiance to be recognized. Even then the core of their races remain neutral. The same Logic can’t be applied to High Elves and Blood Elves since the core of the race (The Blood Elves that make up for roughly 90% Thalassian Elves) is aligned with Horde.

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You literally described a way how High Elves distinguish themselves from Blood elves.
For example, they deliberately avoid wearing red tones for this exact reason.
Why is it acceptable for Pandaren, Dracthyr and Earthen?

Your strange contrarianism makes zero sense.

And last I checked, they don’t stop representing themselves within the faction when there’s peace.

They still belong to said factions.

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High Elves do not bother me, posts like this do ( meaning, the fact it’ s been reposted over and over again )

We’re literally encouraged to post about these things.
Devs are telling us to keep it up, if it’s important to us - and that’s exactly what we’re doing.

How about you find some other hobby than complaining about other peoples passions.

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High Elves baby! Lets do it!

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The thing I find interesting is that the US side of High Elf threads (where the devs are known to read up on) is far more civilized, polite and positive than the European counterpart. Not sure why exactly? Perhaps it’s due to the more lax moderation rules - since I just read some RPer storm in here call people ā€œidiotsā€ and make allegations of racialized language out of the blue.

Hope they have a good day, though.

Do check out the High Elf community council thread too, and give it a like on the US side if you check the general forums there.

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It is very odd, indeed. It’s like night and day in some cases.

Yes! Absolutely goated thread. :green_heart:

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You’re getting the attention you so desperately wanted, aren’t you happy?

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Ignore the troll. That get more upset when you dont give them attention. :slight_smile:

Good shout out.

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Either you are one of those people who call anyone who doesn’t agree with them a troll, or you saw my avatar and believe that’s me IRL.

Either way, your delusions are a great reminder on why we need asylums back

That is no nice of you that you are listening to Devs telling you to post things over and over again so they won’t forget

The order of things. Pandaren were and at their core remained a Neutral Race. It’s the individuals hailing from Wandering Isle that made their choice but it never Changed the stance of their ā€œmainlandā€ kin. Each and every Pandaren can return to their home and be welcomed there. At no point do the Pandaren try to exterminate the opposite side.

The same is even more true for Dracthyr and Earthen that open the diplomacy efforts with both races and as a general race never choose a side accepting the aid equally and not differentiating between their kin based on their individual choice. While we avoid the faction conflict for now it’s unlikely either Race would choose a side in the Conflict.

But this Logic can’t be applied to Thalassian Elves because there’s no Neutral Core. Silvermoon and Isle of Quel’dalar swore their allegiance to the Horde and the ā€˜exiles’ are not particularly welcomed there (although still allowed to make Pilgrimages to the Sunwell). You can’t just make it neutral and call it a day as that will become a problem if the new faction conflict ever arises (as unlikely as it is).

But you can’t also NOT give those things should High Elves become playable as that will be seen as demeaning and insulting to their status as true ā€œElvesā€ (a notion we saw often shared in this topic and its sister one).

Ultimately as it stands I don’t believe High Elves in their current state have much legs to stand on as even an Allied Race much less a core one. And unless there’s something done they can’t even stand on their own without taking away from the existing Blood Elves.

And they still get mistaken for one another because shockingly Blood Elves don’t wear red all the time. Hell Vareesa was on at least one occasion called a Blood Elf. Yes, the self styled Ranger General of the Silver Covenant was mistaken for her Horde Aligned kin.

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