High Elves in 12.1 💙

Highlighted where you said copy turtle. I assumed, since everyone seems to write it alot, turtle means turtle wow.

I did. He said they had no plans in the near term for it. That do not mean a straight “no”.

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Copy the concept of adding playable HE , not the content itself. Can we talk seriously ? How old are you?

is that a national sport to modify and interpret as you want your debate opponent words?

“No plan, I think in this in the near in the near term to add high elves…”
“Sorry, I accept all hate mails…”
“thats how we stand”

Elves are like ice cream darling they all have different colours and flavours embrace the future.

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Considering the way you argue, I would assume im older than you. Considering you keep trying to point out things will never happen, but so far, nothing you have actually added had implied it would never happen. Can you be serious for once?

You using Twow as one part of your argument already showed its flawed. But sure, lets say I never said the word “copy”.

Man, you really want to go to the very extreme when you think you can win the argument with clips that dont even say it will never happen. Just that where they currently stand (5 years ago) it would not happen.

Like, do you actually believe blizzard NEVER changes their stance throughout the years or something?

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About things in general, No.

About this subject, Yes.

fact 1: Its would be easy to add playable HE, verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry easy lorewise and technically

fact 2 : they never add them

fact 3 : they had 3 occasions in the past (and midnight) to add them : 2007 - instead of VE - Midnight
triple NO

let reminder me what is the next playable race ? Oh yes Haranirs

is there any occasion in midnight to add them ? No because we have proof that Amanis are not going to be a playable race, base troll custom for amani look instead.

Are they gonna give an allied race for the alliance and nothing for the horde ? No

You guys have to remember again that is NOT world of ELVEScraft and we are not the center of attention.

there are 80% of playerbase who dont care about quel’dorei

you even didnt answer to that :

It wont happen.

Lore aside.

There is technically zero reason to add HE because they are now in 2025 100% the same race as blood elves.

https://www.wowhead.com/race=10/blood-elf

The blood elves are a proud, haughty race, joining the Horde in Burning Crusade. They represent a faction of former high elves, split off from the rest of elven society; they are also survivors of Arthas’ assault on Silvermoon. Blood elves are fully…

every single racial skill fit 100% to actual HE and BE
Is there any single reason to give other racial skill than these ones ? Absolutely not.

blizzard ll not copy past a race.

“WHY WHY WHY WHY BLIZUR MUST ADD HE”

What about HOW ? if they are 100% the same as blood elves.

Thank you for understanding this simple fact.
The only difference is if they WANT to do it or NOT want to do it. That is literally it.

You saying “it will never happen” is just your personal belief it would never happen. Not a fact.

Did someone say we are the center of attention?
People asking for certain races to be playable isnt a warcrime.

Alright ill answer it then since you seem to be quite arrogant with your assumptions.

Right now they do not see a reason to add them. Yes. But they can change their mind anytime they like.
Blood elves are blood elves. There are still high elves in the game.
They can very easily make new racials if they so want to.

There you go. Racials do not have to be EXACTLY THE SAME just because their origins are the same. Dont even understand why you tried to argue that part.
Its like you try to limit yourself.

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read the racials

arcanes this arcane that another arcanes this

even Arcane Torrent fits with the “meditation” trick of HE

There are still high elves in the game.

As political view, not race

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but why they have to be different?

same biology, same thirst issue, same proximity with the sunwell

even now, since many years, a High elf is fully allowed to go in the Sunwell for pilgrinage

you re talking like high elves and blood elves are like Night Elves and Blood elves what is wrong.

Dark Trolls are race A, ancestor
Night Elves are race B, ancestor, from A
HE and BE are race C, both, with B ancestor and far away A ancestors

Not the same ideology. But I guess I could very easily just ask “Why not?”

Wrong. It seems like you never tried to understand my view.

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Not the same ideology. But I guess I could very easily just ask “Why not?”

lorewise and technically if a HE leave the alliance and ask for sin dorei citizenship, no one in Silvermoon will force him to mana tap any creature of extract magic from fel crystal.

that’s a fact , another fact is mana tap is removed since day one of WOTLK 2008

Do not talk about ideology and horde/alliance allegiance

you re the first one who s gonna tell “there is no more war” if I open a topic in 5min about “We want war between Horde and alliance”

plus : midnight => Silvermoon allowed alliance to enter in 66% of our HORDE city.

so tell me when you say :

Not the same ideology. But I guess I could very easily just ask “Why not?”

tell me more about the different ideology HE have with BE, today in TWW 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsGtOY96BV4

tell me how a High elf cant fit with this ?

In wow we have the following number of (edit: playable) races:

4 x elves
3 x humans (inc Undead)
3 x dwarf (inc Earthen)
2 x draenei
2 x orc
2 x troll
2 x gnome
2 x tauren
1 x goblin
1 x worgen
1 x pandaren
1 x dracthyr
1 x vulpera
1 x haranir

There are already more elf races than any other race, the game does not need more elves.

Edit: and according to Dataforazeroth, 1/3 of max level chars are elves. The top two races are elves. Elves are over-represented in the game.

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Slaps elf ears on top of her ears with a glue

Now I’m a Low Elf!

Alright, tell me, lorewise, what is impossible for high elves, who currently exist in the game, to never change at all from the past… How many years?

So another assumption you make. Huh. Seems to be plenty here. How old are you?

So the first part. Do you expect the Alliance to not do anything while the void is attacking Silvermoon that could destroy Azeroth and just be happy when its gone? Or do you believe the horde would be willing to accept every help they can? Would be very interesting to understand your view on that. Since to me its obvious.

So ideology. I thought you were the loremaster since you kept spamming it can never happen due to lore, but it took me less than 2 min to google the difference in ideology between Helf and Belf. Not only that, I can also understand that when 2 different groups do not go the same path, the path will differ. But according to you, because of their ancestors, that can never happen.
Or wait, did you think blizzards books are already finished and nothing else will change? Can you tell me what expansions ahead there will be? Thanks!

At this point, considering you keep doing the same thing over and over again with no actual real argument against my points. I see its extremely pointless to have any sort of conversation with you. Thank you for your time and goodluck in WoW.

Now mind you, dont take it as a personal attack. Your view just differs way too much to mine in whats possible and not.

But like I already said, Id rather want more customizations for velf and belf than another race. Even if it would be interesting with an Helf, I dont care if they add it or not.

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yes because you re the first, each time, who avoid questions.

You re just another HE fan who stays in the past thinking blood elves are still leeching mana wyrmelin with vampire teeth

end of debate btw it ll never have playable HE in retail.

but it took me less than 2 min to google the difference in ideology between Helf and Belf.

i m not talking to google, i m talking to you.

The main difference is political: Blood Elves are a faction of the High Elves who, after the Scourge invasion, renamed themselves to honor their fallen and joined the Horde. Those who remained loyal to the Alliance and didn’t adopt the new name are still called High Elves. Physiologically, they are the same race, but the two groups diverge in their culture and allegiance.

Blood Elves

  • Political Faction: Joined the Horde after the Scourge attacked their homeland of Quel’Thalas.
  • Cultural Identity: Renamed themselves “blood elves” to remember their people who died in the invasion.
  • Magic: Some have developed a dependence on arcane magic. To sate this thirst, they have learned to drain mana from other sources.
  • Appearance: They are often depicted with pale skin, blood-red robes, and sometimes green-glowing eyes.

High Elves

  • Political Faction: Remained with the Alliance after the Scourge attack, refusing to rename themselves.
  • Cultural Identity: They are the original group of elves, some of whom chose to stay with the Alliance over their kingdom.
  • Magic: Some High Elves practice a more traditional form of magic, but they are not as dependent on it as some Blood Elves can be.
  • Appearance: They are often seen with fair skin and black or blond hair. They may have darker skin tones as a result of sun exposure.

where is the different ideology?

HE fan club are first ones who say “HE use moonwell for the thirst "
then its exactly like "they have learned to drain mana from other sources.

See how google can be useless.

HOINNNK wrong. HE have also arcanes dependence.
and even if HE are less dependent. Be or not be dependent of something is not an ideology.

Even with the retcon when Kael thas rename our people (and its not him the sentence say “we renames ourselves” not “I renamed us”)

At the moment they renames themselves and the moment high elves refused, it wasnt the moment about magic extraction with Fel etc. So HE just decided to leave and refuse to rename themselves in memory of the dead.

clap clap clap. Nice ideology

Dwarves aswell while we are are it.

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Oh you are going to love the Haranir mate. Techically we have 5 humans slim arathi and fat arathi aswell. And 3 Dranei! Dont forget the Man’ari!
And add the wildhammer so 4 dwarves!
God damn man. Options in our Role playing game. Probably woke or smht

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Shut your filthy mouth, animal :imp:

You mean like you avoided every answer I gave?

Im not even a HE fan but sure, you can assume whatever you want at this point if it makes you happy.

Sure, have your own personal belief however much you want. Whatever suits you.

And I dont know every single lore about the game as I stated from the very beginning… Apparently you ignored that part.

You cant even use google right. Nice.

Thanks for clarifying how good you are. :clap: Keep going strong! :hugs:

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patience is the key, I answered. read before post.