High Elves in 12.1 💙

[Alfiriniel-silvermoon]

There is already an active thread about High Elves that’s alive and well.

I would love for the tradional High Elves to become playable. But I think opening more topics of the same item won’t help.

I suggest to redirect any further conversation to:

Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024

Update: Feedback about The Midnight As most of us The High Elf fans feel, I am also extremely disappointed and let down by this huge slap in the face from Blizzard. Imagine an expansion where all elves are united and yet The High Elves- SIlver Covenant are still not and will not be playable and completely excluded from this next expansion. This has been the most requested playable race for more than twenty years and Blizzard continues to ignore it with stubbornness and disregard. I want to…

Just try to keep the forums clean and avoid duplicate posts.

[Yojeong-kazzak]

@Gabriela-hyjal

patience is the key, I answered. read before post.

Sure. We can pretend you did if it makes you happy.

[Ангеланика-gordunni]

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

But I think opening more topics of the same item won’t help.

I suggest to redirect any further conversation to:

Please do not advertise other topics in my thread. Thank you for your understanding

There is a lot of flood in that thread, and it’s just people discussing and fantasizing

I created my own thread with a specific request in a specific patch 12.1

[Gabriela-hyjal]

you already did

#Quel’dorei2025

Blizzard, if you don’t announce the High Elves on 19 August, I’m deleting WoW Make the High Elves part of the Alliance! Millions of players are waiting for this, and you’ll earn millions of dollars from the race change. We don’t need strange, unpopular races, we want the best race on Azeroth. For the Alliance! #quel’dorei2025

you re just a spammer what is against ToS

your 1st topic is even not closed and you created another one. Its clearly spam.

[Ангеланика-gordunni]

@Gabriela-hyjal

you re just a spammer

@Gabriela-hyjal

Its clearly spam.

Honey, you’re the only one spamming here with your neurotic messages and the mess in your head

[Álaric-mirage-raceway]

The OP is also a well known racist and was banned on the US forum there comments.

[Halga-emerald-dream (Halga)]

@Gabriela-hyjal

There are still high elves in the game.

As political view, not race

Which means nothing today.

Pandaren=different political views and yet they are part of both Alliance and Horde and playable on both sides and share same hub city and have same customizations on both sides.

Dracthyr=different political views and yet they are part of both Alliance and Horde and playable on both sides and share same hub city and have same customizations on both sides.

Earthen=different political views and yet they are part of both Alliance and Horde and playable on both sides and share same hub city and have same customizations on both sides.

High elves=different political views but are not part of both Alliance and Horde, only “Playable” on the Horde side. And Blizzard created a “compromise” race nobody asked for and don’t make sense in the Alliance as they go against everything the Alliance stands for. They share “some” customizations (as in fake Alliance High elf) but that does not make the Void elves, the Alliance High elves we been asking for years. The High elf wayfarers (small groups of High elves living in Human villages that never fought for the Alliance) as the same as the Umbric and his follower. They are “nobodies” as they never took part of the factions wars in the past and fought side by side with the Alliance races.

And number don’t matter either as the Void elves was just 23 people, for them to become playable and the Alliance high elves are way more than that tand the Void elves can’t become more without the Help of both High elves and Blood elves and they can’t repopulate like the other races, they need to convert/transform High elves and Blood elves to “exist” and if no more High elves and Blood elves want to “become” Void elves…well then they have to seek other races to “join” them and would they still be void elves then?..no…they be a class as they always been. The Vulpera are nothing more than few wagons…as in extinct race. That is all that is left of them. There just one wagon and 3 Vulpera in Orgrimmar.

[Kiryanor-grim-batol]

All is fine except the three races you bring out are Neutral at their core. The Pandarens that joined either Horde or Alliance do not represent their government. They’re two relatively small portion of their society that chose the side based on which values they hold more dear.

The matter is even more clear with Drachtyr and Earthen. They’re both at their core a Neutral entity that entered diplomatic relationship with both factions while not specifically picking the side with individuals that decided to join/aid the specific faction.

This does not apply to the High Elves as their core Government and majority of the race joined Horde. Those that stayed within alliance and retained their name don’t even have a unified structure. They stick with whichever group they were at the moment of their “exile”. Be it Rangers that followed Alleria, Silver Covenant following Varessa or individuals that remained in Theramore or Stormwin

[Kaeros-dentarg]

Incorrect of course. Trying to find parallels to show a rationale you reject should be discounted you never consider why Alliance High Elves are unique in why they are denied.

Pandaren, Dracthyr, Earthen…what is the common thread behind all three? Namely that as races they were conceived of and implemented as neutral FIRST. Blood Elves were conceived of and implemented as a core Horde race, as core to the Horde as Orcs or Trolls or as core as Humans and Night Elves are to the Alliance.

In terms of lore they, and they upcoming Haronir, have been implemented differently to the Core races. The Core races are fully paid up members of their respective factions. Their entire societies have joined the Alliance and the Horde. With the Blood Elves, that is the Kingdom of Quel’thalas. With neutral race, some individuals of those races have aligned with the two factions BUT their societies remain neutral. The Earthen leadership is not Horde or Alliance even though some Earthen are Horde or Alliance.

In contrast, the thalassian elf state leadership are wholly Horde.

[Teesla-saurfang]

for me blizz is ambiguous about high elves just because ppl could write about it on forums.
Without this, forum would be dead and gone.

[Qazimbo-draenor]

Get over it. (Even chat GPT knows it )

Chat GPT:
are you familiar with High elves topic in wow?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, I’m familiar with the High Elf topic in World of Warcraft — both the lore side and the long-standing community debate around their availability as a playable race.

To give a short summary:

• Lore-wise: High Elves (Quel’dorei) are descendants of the Night Elves who followed Dath’Remar Sunstrider and founded Quel’Thalas. After the Scourge destroyed much of their kingdom, most survivors renamed themselves Blood Elves (Sin’dorei) to honor their fallen kin. Only a small number refused the name and remained loyal to the Alliance.
• In-game: Those few High Elves appear mainly as NPCs among Alliance factions — e.g. Silver Covenant in Dalaran, Allerian Stronghold in Outland, and a few outposts.
• Community debate: Players have been asking since early WoW days to have “true” High Elves as a playable race for the Alliance. Blizzard resisted for years, saying their numbers were too small and that Blood Elves already represented them visually.
• Modern compromise: The introduction of Void Elves in Battle for Azeroth (and later customizations that made them look almost identical to High Elves) effectively gave Alliance players “playable High Elves” without duplicating the Blood Elf faction identity.

Would you like me to go into the lore and social differences between High and Blood Elves, or the player community debate and Blizzard’s design stance?

You said:

Are Blood elves and high elves the same race?

ChatGPT said:

Yes — biologically and racially, Blood Elves and High Elves are the exact same race.

Here’s how it breaks down:

• Before the Third War, all were High Elves (Quel’dorei), descendants of Night Elves who founded Quel’Thalas.
• After the Scourge destroyed most of their kingdom, roughly 90% of their population was wiped out. The survivors under Kael’thas Sunstrider renamed themselves Blood Elves (Sin’dorei) to honor their dead.
• A small minority rejected the new name, remaining loyal to the Alliance and continuing to call themselves High Elves.

So:

• Genetically? Identical.
• Culturally and politically? Different.
• Visual difference? Practically none, except that Blizzard tends to depict High Elves with slightly lighter skin tones, blue eyes, and a calmer aesthetic — whereas Blood Elves are more “arcane-corrupted,” green- or golden-eyed, and tied to Silvermoon and the Horde.

In short:
Same people, different choices.
Blood Elves = High Elves who renamed themselves after tragedy and followed a different path.

[Complacency-argent-dawn]

At what point does repeating the same thread become spam?

We do not need a third blood elf race.

[Nivdh-silvermoon]

How many high elf fans does it take to replace a light bulb?
It’ll never happen cos they’re all arguing on forums

These people keep having the same conversation at least once a week and nothing comes out of it. De lu lu

[Aahken-quelthalas]

I find it interesting how OP references these so-called tens of thousands of players who have been waiting for High Elves for 20 years, yet I have read all 190+ of these comments and only like 2 people are agreeing. Meanwhile, the vast majority are in disagreement and arguing against their addition. And the same old story can be seen across the entire forum whenever this topic is brought up for the 60th time on any given Monday morning.

The truth is that Blizzard gave Void Elves the “normal” skin and blue eye customizations specifically so they didn’t have to make an entirely seperate race. Otherwise, why on earth would they have added these customizations instead of doubling down on void aesthetics and saving them for a seperate High Elven race?

Furthermore, I would like to point out the ridiculousness/irony of those requesting High Elves that call out other races (Earthern) for being copy/paste glorified customizations that very few asked for.

I don’t often engage in these discussions except to see what others are saying, but I am so sick of seeing these High Elf posts flooding the forums, and every time they are met with mass disagreement. Usually if there is a popular movement, you also see topics rising to the top of the game’s subreddit in conjunction with the forums, game chat and social media. It has been a very long time since I’ve seen discussion surrounding High Elves on any other platform beyond official forums. Whenever new races are talked about, the common/popular picks are Ethereals, Sethrak, Ogres, Tuskar and Naga to name a few. There isn’t a significant number of players asking for High Elves.

To close, I would just like to say that from my experience, folks such as OP seem to be in a loud minority, and they overestimate their support. They are as few in number as the High Elves they so vehemently beg for on a daily basis.

End rant.

[Fydron-argent-dawn]

I only accept more elfs if we get Frost Dwarves the Iron Dwarves and Druids for all Dwarves then you can get your high, low, fire, frost the wretched and all the other 1001 elf variations.

[Fydron-argent-dawn]

I don’t really understand the High Elf crowd when we already have them as the only difference is the eye color and both Void and Blood Elfs have that color already its the same stupid argument that people had for wanting Wildhammer Dwarves when we already have them with original Dwarves having that customization. And yes having separate Dark Iron is as stupid especially when Mag’har orcs have all the different Orc variations with them.
Most of the allied races should had just been customization for older races more so because with that we could had more hair styles and stuff unlike now when Dark Iron barely have anything at all.

[Kaeros-dentarg]

Most of the folks still behind this are RP’ers whose conception of what fantasy is was shaped by looking at other franchises and the traditional trinity of the Human, the Dwarf and the Elf.

The traditional Elf going to the Horde has upset them for an incredibly long time, and the presence of a remnant group that fit the stereotype has led to this campaign for the ‘true’ elves to be restored as a playable option.

The Void Elf customisations don’t work for these individuals because at the end of the day, it is still a Void Elf and a Void Elf is not 100% what they want.

I also entirely agree that allied races should have been customisation options for existing races, basically how man’ari Draenei have been implemented, rather than as a transparent money grab.

[Qazimbo-draenor]

High Elves in 12.1

I find it interesting how OP references these so-called tens of thousands of players who have been waiting for High Elves for 20 years, yet I have read all 190+ of these comments and only like 2 people are agreeing. Meanwhile, the vast majority are in disagreement and arguing against their addition. And the same old story can be seen across the entire forum whenever this topic is brought up for the 60th time on any given Monday morning. The truth is that Blizzard gave Void Elves the “normal” sk…

And they will not settle down until it shows in the nameplates. That is the whole point. Even though there are Blood Elf and Void Elf customizations, there is an ego problem because on the nameplate it does not say High Elf, it says Blood Elf.

To be honest, I have been playing this game since the end of TBC, and I only heard about this story about a month ago. Yet supposedly tens of thousands of players have been begging Blizzard for twenty years. Sure, okay.

[Kaeros-dentarg]

Also true, the customisations on Void Elves only allow for a subjective experience and even then a compromised one as it is undoubtedly a Void Elf.

What is sought is an objective experience where they will have non void racials and a nameplate so they can they insist they are the true High Elves. This would of course erode the legitimacy of Blood Elves, who are true High Elves, and whilst that is a subjective experience in and of itself, the fact they seek to compromise the subjective (and lore consistent) experience of other players to foist their own subjective (lore inaccurate) approach on everyone else is one of the main issues.

[Thuzar-argent-dawn (Thuzar)]

Why are we opening up ANOTHER elf thread when the other one is still going strong

WHY is everyone repeating the same talking points again!

Tell me the definition of insanity and i’ll show you a something fun.