Fixed that for you
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Homophobic language goes beyond just being foul. Itâs language used to keep groups of people down, to belittle them, to demean them, and to make them feel lesser. And Iâm not disagreeing with Goldshire being a priority either, I think it could make a nice low-fantasy hub if not for the sorts of RPers who currently dwell within it.
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Okay, so a Falstaff type. Falstaff was a captivating anti-hero without being a big homophobe that makes people uncomfortable OOC.
I think you know what I meant by âfoul languageâ it goes under all bad language umbrella.
Goldshire Ftas should be dealt with first because its ruining immersion when it used to be a proper Inn RP. You cant ignore them.
But you can ignore people you dont like.
And because that problem is still existing in a PG 12(3?) game which is much worse than someone being offensive.
Because you can report and /ignore the idiot, you cant to the degenerates in there.
So I think the foul language issue wont be solved anytime sooner.
It took us what? 7 years to get us High Elves with that huge high demand of crying?
I have little hope for Blizzard when comes to this issue. Which sucks.
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Thatâs not really up to you to decide though. Iâve said Iâll tone it down and keep it contained. Think youâre getting a bit too tilted here friend.
I already said I will.
Send help.
But I never claimed it was what you value as âGood RPâ. I most certainly enjoy playing a plight on society that everyone should hate who spreads nothing but discord wherever he goes. Same as I assume the guard rpâers enjoy humping eachother, the holy orders their fanaticism for religion and the goblin rpâers their eternal hustle.
Iâm not as educated in this as you appear to be. What is a Falstaff?
Which is why heâs saying that we as a community need to make the effort to make that change instead. Blizzard arenât going to, but that doesnât stop us from trying to encourage that change for the better of the community as a whole, so this server can be a little bit more welcoming for people.
Outing yourself as enjoying spouting homophobic slurs then claiming âIâm nothing like my character!â 
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I have an amazing sollution for this problem that will solve all of our problems.
Which is Blizzard to hire a team of Admins that take care of social-chat issues, so that all the 18+ language (so it will include foul language and not family-friendly activities) very quickly and dispatch a warning/ban to these folks.
But that takes money 
Thankfully they are relegated to just that singular zone, but within that zone you are absolutely correct. And by no means am I saying they arenât a problem, nor am I saying that they are a greater or lesser problem than the one I have presented here, but Goldshire is a known issue. Most everyone frequenting the forums knows how much of a wretched hive of scum and villainy it has become. Meanwhile, I would argue that homophobic roleplay is less often talked about and often flies under the radar.
As I said before, these people can be RPers you see in campaigns and events. They can even be your own guild members. And just because one problem is present, doesnât mean that we cannot address another. Our focus does not have to be only on one thing at a time, one can advocate for a more LGBT+ friendly Argent Dawn while also saying that they want the situation in Goldshire to be remedied.
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It is clear to me noe that the borders between fiction and reality has blurred for you.
Meaning OOC and IC are seperate. Before Iâm accused of something else.
Check my comment above yours.
If the community could make a protest for Blizzard to hire a team to take care of social-chat issues as a whole, everyone would win.
I mean yeah, that would be absolutely lovely. But as you said, not going to happen because money, no matter how much we ask them to do something, chances are thatâs not going to be possible for a damn long time.
But at the same time, does that stop us from trying to do something? Itâs not a perfect solution, no, there will never be one that we can come up with as a community. Doesnât mean we should just push it under the rug and hope the mess clears itself up, itâll just come back smelling twice as bad.
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Argent Dawn is already LGBT friendly, Blizzard is LGBT friendly and there are even guilds dedicated to LGBT.
What you are asking is a complete zero tolerance towards people RPâing douches towards a single group due to IRL situation which I understand why you seek it but in the end it is hardly possible.
Are we going to seek zero tolerance towards other matters example eating meat to respect vegitarians and the list goes on.
I do understand your point I truly do but I think entering the realm of RP going to make it impossible and worst case possible report and see if Blizzard shares your view.
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Id definetely support a cause that could make our RP more family friendly.
We just need someone to start it and snowball it in to something big, like the Helf community did.
Incomparable. Vegetarians arenât an oppressed minority with a history of forced castration and mass execution. Next.
They do.
Angelus youâre better than making that comparison.
The more equivalent comparison would be to (IRL) race based bigotry.
I am not comparing them I mentioned another group that could use similar treatment due to their choice of not eating meat.
In the end I do agree that we as community can do more, I had a gay character in my guild and I had zero tolerance towards making rude comments OOC in the guild, IC we never had issues which is why that rule never came to exist.
I would like to think that this thread is the start of that snowball. With enough discussion of a sensible manner and avoiding name calling and such, it could very well end up being the beginning of that.
Perhaps Iâm being nit-picky on this point, but those are two things on very different scales. Last Iâd heard, and, do feel free to correct me if I am mistaken on this, vegetarians arenât being killed for existing in countries.
There are no doubt other issues that are of a similar scale, and those no doubt deserve rectification as well. But putting these two in such close proximity kinda trivialises one.
I can attest to this. Every single guild I have been in has been welcoming and accepting of my sexuality. Sadly, this isnât a tale told by everyone, and just because itâs good now, doesnât mean it cannot be improved.
Getting people to stop entirely 100% is impossible. Youâll always have people who stand by doing something regardless of circumstance, or who will do a Kanye West and act in a contrarian manner just to circumvent expectations. However, as a community we can show these people that we have little interest in associating with such behaviours by cutting it off.
Iâll also take this time to say that people who were previously homophobic but have since ceased such behaviours are more than welcome. Not in every case, but there are homophobes who lash out because they themselves are insecure regarding their sexual identity. It doesnât excuse such language and behaviours, but it does explain it, and that can be a lesson to teach others who may find themselves in a similar position. A slight tangent, but I think an important one to highlight that may not have been brought up previously.
Generally no. Vegetarianism is a choice, I myself am vegetarian, and I often roleplay meat-eating characters. Being LGBT+ is not a choice, it is simply how we are born. There is no changing it, there should be no judgment set upon us for it.
Again, I think if we bar characters who behave in this way from public events, thatâs a pretty decent incentive to play nice. Ultimately if somebody is homophobic IRL, and is using a character to express that, then itâs not going to change their mind, and frankly a thread like this shall not. But at least in that situation, their views are then withheld from the people who would be needlessly hurt by them.
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