Homophobia in rp needs to cease

Homophobia is real. Deeply upsetting and unpleasant experiences relating to homophobia and bigotry are real. Bringing unnecessary and cruel reminders of that into a game we all play for fun in a safe environment (as mandated by Blizzard) is not this weird censorship narrative that forum weirdos like to present.

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That was just me taking a dig at cancel-culture there mainly, if racial slurs weren’t a bannable offense no matter the context i’d be fine with using them in RP. But I dislike using them IRL as I feel its simply not nice for those around me that would explicitly have to deal with that, plus I have nothing against ethnicity, race and so on. The difference is if someone doesn’t like me doing that in a game like wow, they could just ignore me, that is if we’re going with the idea I wouldnt get banned by daddy blizzard.

What is EU4 :thinking:

Also, unrelated but also still kinda related. ^ Zarental confirming if you’re white, your opinion doesn’t matter, nice.

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“I really really want to say the n-word in roleplay”

What

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Don’t put words in my mouth in an attempt to blur the lines between what I actually said and what you think I mean. :smiley:

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Yikes. That ain’t it.

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Its almost as if my character’s choices, decisions and way of speaking and all that doesn’t actually reflect upon me as a person and is designed that way, what a shocker in today’s RP-scene I know.

The fact you feel a need to bring it up outta thin air is kinda telling my dude.

Certified redditor moment

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Honestly I don’t think there’s much recontextualization there. You quite literally just said that if racial slurs weren’t explicitly bannable that they’d get a free pass in roleplay. And yes, okay, you said you wouldn’t personally use them IRL and thus presumably wouldn’t use them in-game yourself.

But why on earth would you ever say “you know what Azeroth could get away with? People bringing IRL racial degradations into the game. That wouldn’t bother me at all.”

Your character is not an independent AI. You type out everything you make your character say, man. Incredibly yikes.

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What some people tried to say multiple times now…

IF your argument is valid (which may well be so) that “Roleplaying a character that doesn’t like/accept homosexuals” violates the ToS, then so too does any warrior or at least any Roleplay that includes fights. (Because then some characters will suffer violence and hurting players is also against the ToS). Also some concepts are problematic because up until the start of classic kaldorei druidism was a predominantly male and priesthood a predominantly female “job”. So a character, who still struggles with the new changes could be dubbed sexist (while he is following the establishes lore) and henceforth violate the ToS.

The point some people are trying to make is that it is bigotry if one would report “potentially homophobic characters”, meanwhile totally accepting all-female shield guard units, old male druids who still isn’t used to female druids or someone who enjoys a good fight in RP ince in a while. And if all of the latter are “okay”, even if doing such stuff to PLAYERS violates the ToS, why isn’t a character that says “Meh…no i am not fine with two women marrying”.

Even if the sole purpose of anti-homosexual characters ist “being a villain” and “being overcome/fought”, someone has to play them, at least as an NPC, in a story.

All some did to advocate was saying: “In SOME instances this can be okay storywise”. Of course it is NEVER okay to invade other players safe-spaces in RP without any kind of permission. But that goes for EVERY topic, not only this one.

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It’s a bit mad having to repeatedly try to explain the concept of basic empathy and decency in this thread.

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Because online you have all the controll in the world to see what you want and do what you want. One of my close friends who is gay actually plays a homophobic character - when i asked them why? there response was because i want to. For a lot of people Wow is an escape from normality I don’t think it needs to be policed to such an extent. its just an opinion. I don’t believe because someone plays a character with certain unkind morals that these reflect their real life opinions. If this was OOC it would be a lot different and i would completely agree.

I genuinely cannot tell if half of you are being serious right now but I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are, and that you aren’t just being contrarian for contrarianisms sake.

Just don’t bring IRL bigoted views, regardless of if they are your own or otherwise, into a game that has no reason to include them. It isn’t difficult.

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Why are you trying to be pedantic to defend homophobia

Whats the gain here i dont see it

It really is this easy, crazy isnt it

The gain? Overcoming a villain, for example, as I said.

And if the argument ist “It violates the ToS” then there is no need of a gain. Then “But fighting does too” is a valid response.

I just don’t like the ToS-club when saying: “Don’t be a homophobic bastard and invade other people’s happy place in RP!” works as well.

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There are much better and more interesting villains to overcome

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Don’t pre determin my race and associate my views based on it. Thats called Racism, and dont make assumtions about me.

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