acting as friends is incredibly boring. can we get some faction war back? no one likes this carebear narrative
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Waiting till their new tree is finished.
Then we grab the torches
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#freesylvanas
the new gilneas questline is also about horde and alliance being friends /puke
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Hey don’t blow the cover for our invasion plans
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I’m sure the writers will revert the Horde back to being the bad guys before long, and the faction war will kick off again, given the poor feedback on Dragonflight’s story.
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Sylvanas did nothing wrong!
I’m sure the writers will revert the Horde back to being the bad guys before long, and the faction war will kick off again, given the poor feedback on Dragonflight’s story.
I think the faction wars will get back to being good, once Anduin stops acting emo and finally grows a pair. Also we need Thrall to be killed off by the Alliance, so things can stop being buddy buddy because of Thrall.
Or Thrall gets assassinated by someone within the Horde (then plants evidence to make it sense it was done by the Alliance) to finally trigger another great war.
Won’t happen. The lore is way too cosmical for some little bickering between Horde and Alliance, unless we again go into a timey-wimey stuff that we did with Garrosh. It’s sunshine and rainbow, nothing else.
Faction war died with bringing everyone in the universe to try to claim our beloved planet, so basically it died with Pandaland. But this is my 2 cents.
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Since when has the conflict between the two biggest factions on azeroth become “a little bickering”, we had like half an expansion where it was centred around this because it is in fact more than " a little bickering", also wdym too cosmical, from what it feels like its mostly about retconning the titans every chance they get so they can say there were always still stuff to explore.
I mean I’m also hoping and coping for some more conflict, my bet is on thrall dying tragically at some point during either war within or midnight and it’s either mistaken or pinned in a way that the horde blame the alliance or another thing they could do is the horde finally rejects their “false” leader for being buddy buddy with the alliance leaders too long and abandoning the core principals of the horde and the alliance is enraged by the abandonement of thrall and takes up their swords in protest. Just a thought, no way fully thought through, just hoping and coping.
Agreed, it’s getting soppy and is ruining the game as it has been from its foundation.
It’s fine when they have to team up for a world ending event that affects both of them, but they are still two independent nations. Separate cultures, goals and ambitions.
It doesn’t need to be a foreground war; it could be something in the background like the War between WotLK and MoP or just the skirmishes between Greymane and Sylvanas in Legion.
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I feel BFA is still too soon for another Faction War, or at least one that is the highlight event of the expansion.
It sucks cos BFA just so utterly missed the mark. It wasted the war potential.
The Alliance being the aggressors would be a nice change. As long as they don’t end up winning like normal. It’d be utterly rancid, but unfortunately not improbable, for Blizzard to have the Alliance as the bad guys, do loads of bad deeds, destroy Horde stuff, then magically turn around and smite “the real bad guy” of the expansion without giving anything back.
At least in BFA, the Alliance won all the Warfronts, the entire War and were never worse off than the Horde. Again, that’s Alliance favourtism, I guess…
Amen
i also think this would be just so cool, cause we haven’t seen the alliance show the dark sides that are very much present within the alliance, like the incredibly racist subsitute king like Turalyon, who is against all things like, which is ironic cause well void elves lmao.
Or like the Stone Masons Guild, the Alliance being the good guys used to be a very surface appearance, we have done terrible things in the past and yet dude to the past few expansion being almost entirely exempt of truly darker things in wow, like shady deals and unfair treatment (where alot of the alliances evil lies, like any strong political party who is openly seen as the “good guys” in video games), we tend to forgett the past.
I would ove to see this revisited in the near future cause I don’t enjoy being called the good guys after genociding *insert * race for the 100th time for a new expansion.
For me it is too cosmical, simply because knowing the threat that the other Realms produce is on a much bigger scale than two factions’ fighting for half an episode, then come together against a greater enemy from outside our planet for 3 and a half episodes then sing kumbaya.
I’m actually curious if there is one such thing? Alliance is more of a unity of different races for me who do their own stuff, but to have a core principal is a big stretch. The Iron Horde had one, this Horde feels like a red version of the Alliance with races coming together and being butchered by the “we need a scapegoat” writing style.
Agreed.
Wasn’t he mind controlled by the Na’aru? When Illidan poofed the Na’ru from existence, didn’t he become free from the destiny of being Yrel 2.0?
Before fa the allaince was described by blizz as the last pwerhouse. But the true favoritism is the cloning machines the horde has. Lore wise the numbers of alot of their races are incredible low seeing how some races literally were close to extinction like the tauren. But somehow they still managed to be a threat with their endless numbers from their cloning machines
Good question, can’t remember if thats the case, if anyone knows I would greatly appreciate the full info on that
Whilst factions are integral to WoW from its baseline, it has always felt that this point of a truce and working together has been the objective from the get go. It’s been a very rough ride but we have worked together to overcome so many threats to the world that at this point, in fact even in BfA, it seems childish and stupid to go to war again.
I suppose a compromise would be a neutral faction but unfortunately I think that comes with a lot of technical issues, especially given all content prior to SL had a Horde and an Alliance version. So, neutral races are perhaps the only path forward and PvP will have to be the outlet for those who won’t get on with each other anymore.
Ugh, yeah, while I do enjoy both Factions, my main issue with the Alliance is that they are so “babied” when it comes to the story. They are bland and one-dimensional while portrayed as the no-fault paragons. Give them some depth with some actual moral greyness.
There’s always some excuse or scapegoat for the few times they do “act naughty” or else the deed is completely ignored because the Alliance must remain pure, for some reason.
There was so much potential with BFA. We could have had Greymane and Tyrande going down a firebrand path, ignoring the commands of the new king Anduin, in their quest for vengeance. Even Jaina could have done better if they had actually leaned into and accepted her anger against the Horde.
Otherwise, her entire arc is that she took an absolute homicidal hissy fit FOR THE SECOND TIME and no one cares. Aw, that’s just Jaina being Jaina…
I had an idea of the Alliance “triggering” the War of Thorns by attempting to kill Sylvanas in an Alliance-only scenario infiltrating Orgrimmar. The who caused the burning of Teldrassil could be a contentious subject if a near-fatal attack on the Banshee Queen by Greymane caused her to react out of panic and indignant rage.
Maybe even have a unit like the 7th Legion come into prominence that uses more dubious tactics and classes specifically tailored to mass destructive styles of war, like Fire Mages, Warlocks, Unholy Death Knights, Rogues, etc.
Could be a whole story dynamic as the Horde have to deal with and start accusing the Alliance of this dark legion while the Alliance, especially Anduin, have to come to terms with using them versus the lack of morals their use instills.
One of the major issues with WoW is the writing. When it comes to any War, for the most part the Alliance should just win cos they have all sorts of technology while the Horde just use catapults and wooden stakes. For some reason, the Horde always seems able to go at least partially toe-to-toe with the Alliance.
The Alliance always wins, though, not because of their strength but because of luck. Even if they have the bigger stick, they still only win cos the Horde are suddenly written as stupid. The entire time, stupidity has been holding back the Alliance until it actually matters. That sucks for story writing.
In fairness though, after Legion both Factions were deemed as being low on numbers. Not sure if that meant equal but it was still pretty stupid to then have a full-on war. Should have been a spacer expansion between them.
You could say that the Horde just breed better than the Alliance…? Maybe they had more printed soldiers vs the Alliance’s better tech at the start of BFA? Still dumb though and its all bad writing.
Literally both factions should go extinct because of the amount of wars and conflicts during the ages, but no, we have random peeps popping out of the snow like daisies.
100% agree on all the take you said 
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Horde and Alliance was much longer at peace than at war, even if it was more of a cold war than real peace.
Anyway, if there another tension between Horde and Alliance, I just hope it will not be another Garrosh, even if it’s an Alliance one. Doing war just for the sake of war doesn’t sound appealing to me.
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If they never want to make the 2 faction make war again, a new faction must be introduced. But i guess this should require a work that a game 20 years old never worth.
Elves against all?