Just because the mobs are hostile it means it doesn’t belong to the Horde now?
It is an officially the Horde’s city.
I rather have a city full of hostile mobs than a city full of Trolls and Orcs or other lowborn slave races
like silvermoon 
You are supposed to say: wasn’t it recently sacked 
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your race is so insignificant your avatar is phasing out of existence all i see are your hair, eye browns and top armor pieces 
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Yeah yeah, okay, one little sacking.
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Zulduzar has its own Harbor. It also has similar functions for Horde players as Boralus does for the Alliance.
The Living humans of Lordaeron still have a claim. With the help of the Alliance they could be returned home. Just have to deal with their Horde aligned Scourge problem.
Surumar has ports as well as Telemancy. Not to mention they rule the surrounding area of a very large city.
The Highmountain Tauren are a union of several tribes of Tauren.
BloodTotems chose the Fel and became a military target during the invasion. BloodTotems also side with the Primalists forces.
Does not change the fact that they have a very large city and almost complete control over the whole of the Highmountain area.
The Horde and Civilization is an Oxymoron. Despite the resources and engineers. Still crude and just barely enough to do the job.
Perhaps there is a difference in talents - potential - how persons apply themselves between the Alliance and the Horde.
First Aracanist Thalyssria was asking Jaina Proudmoore to reveal Alliance secrets on how she enchanted Daelin’s ship.
Sylvannas simply never accounted for Jaina Proudmoore. The Horde chose to destroy their own city. This scorched - earth policy to destroy the Alliance at all costs backfired.
Mages USED to be power players in WoW. Jaina was the difference maker when Daelin and the Kul Tirans faced off and was about to defeat the Horde.
Her absence and betrayel of her father lead to his death and the defeat of the Kul Tirans that followed him.
Medivh is still a powerhouse but he is a guardian.
You admit the Horde’s incompetence in Magecraft?
But you don’t have to wait.
Thrall is technically the most powerful Shaman on Azeroth. An Orc that became an Aspect to bring down DeathWing the World Breaker.
Why are you so quick to claim Alliance bias?
Oh that is simple. Because it surrounds the entire lore. Alliance has all the good cities. Alliance has all the god tier characters who can blast entire armies. And Alliance will win every war because “Horde bad” is still printed in the minds of the devs. There will be no dawn for the Horde until Danuser and Golden are removed.
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Isn’t that true?
Here is the answer why horde always loses:
I think they still are. It wasn’t that long ago that the Kirin Tor relocated Dalaran.
And I think Kalecgos going to Khadgar because Raszageth escaped and the Aspects are scared is another soft reminder of the power of mages.
You create a false narrative with the Lore.
- The Alliance exists BECAUSE of the Horde and a means to actually stop the barbarism and atrocities.
- The Alliance have been written as reactionaries and handcuffed in attacks against the Horde.
After the death of King Rhastakhan Matthias Shaw suggested pressing the attack against the Horde. But was overruled by Jaina and Greymane agreed.
Yet if the Horde was victorious they will slaughter every Alliance defenceless civilian man women and child.
The burning of Teldrassil is evidence of this. There is also the slaughter of the defenceless civilians of Brennadam. Where horde used defenceless civilians as target practice and children watch their fathers pinned against the walls by Horde spears.
The Horde resulting to Scourge tactics - forcing on to Daelin Proudmoore what was done to Dranosh Saurfang only to use him as a bio-weapon full of blight.
Some make excuses on the current Warchief. But the Horde are still what they are.
It is a difference of competence. Saurfang did hold of the army on his own at the battle for Lordaeron. Stop ignoring Horde exploits just to complain about Alliance exploits.
Maybe subconsciously you dont dig the, tribal, unconventional non western themed civs! After all even Silvermoon had planty big intermingling with denizens of Alliance n their cultures.
Also you forgot Suramar! That city is one of the best Blizzards creations
Personally I prefer Horde city diversity over Alliance’s
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There are no Horde exploits. Horde lost every battle of Bfa. And lost alot of leaders. Stuff that never happens to the alliance because they are the pet of Blizzard.
Alliance bias is the problem. The Allianc emust suffer a defeat they can’t recover from.
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That’s not the reason (besides that being total nonsense).
They wanted horde to have this rugged, barbaric, primal aesthetic. So their cities reflect that (except for the elves, which are unfitting for the horde anyway imo).
I do like the alliance cities better overal; they feel more like real places.
That’s one of the reasons I rolled Alliance when I returned to the game after an extended break (I played horde from vanilla up until WotLK).
If you want good cities; join the Alliance!
No. Both factions deserve good cities. Kick Tauren and Darkspear out of the Horde and let Amani and Ogres join. hat would be a big step in the right direction.
The Amani, who hates the Hordes (and the Horde hates them in turn, or they wouldn’t stomped them on every opportunity they got) and the Ogre who are on stone age level when it comes to cities and buildings?
Well sure, but you wanted cities, not stone huts
The amani HAD mighty cities, but they are quite in a ruined condition and they are Darkspear level when come to buldings nowdays
Ogres built the first empire on Draenor and had Highmaul until the rise of the Horde. Amani have left traces of their civilization all over Lordaeron from Zul’Aman to Jintha’alor. Which are stillactive btw. Darkspear are mudhuts just like pre Cataclysm Orcs. Zekhan couldn’t even write or read and had to have Bob explain him what erosion means.
Yes
Goria and Highmaul are the perfect examples of the Ogre “architecture”
Even their navy was made out of stone
Not exactly the civilized cities you want
Nor the traces of the Amani civilization
If you want Alliance level of technology and cities, maybe… I don’t know, make peace and work together to built those Silvermoon and Stormind like cities? 
Peace means giving the alliance the opportunity to destroy us. We need to strike first if we want to succeed.