The forest is getting burned so that the sneaky night elves leftovers cannot wage guerrilla warfare from the trees, interrupting supply lines and just being a nuissance in general.
It’s literally military 101 - don’t allow the enemy the advantage of terrain…forrested land + stealthy elves = no bueno.
Blight is fertilizer. New forest will grow, with plants that eat night elves if they try to hide in their treetops. New DNA weaponry, just in from the apothecary.
jajajaja
All that’s needed now is the entry of goblin flying mech artillery, the kind that is available for WQ in south Nazmir.
Uh, sure, but that’s not what I meant. What I said was that there are no winners in this war - regardless of who actually ‘wins’ the war, the victory will be hollow since the world has been scarred by the battles fought. Tirisfal Glades is scorched, the Ruins of Lordaeron blighted, Teldrassil burned down, the Zandalari Empire weakened, Darkshore severely damaged and blighted, etc. Not to mention that the Alliance is forced to send citizens to the front, since that’s all what they have left.
Thats not how Shadowmeld works though. Maiev literally vanished from eye sight in Hellfire when she was hunting Illidan and there was not a single tree in sight.
So no, Kaldorei guerilla tactics do not entirely depend on the fact that they need forests.
Not the Alliance. Stormwind has to send farmers in because they got rid of most of their army in Lordaeron because they disn’t think about counter-measures.
Most of the Kaldorei army is intact and fighting in Zandalar and Darkshore, same for the Gilnean Army. Dwarven Armies haven’t seen use since forever and the Gnome Army is still around to, although busy with Gnomeregan most likely.
Thats the problem with Blizzard relying solely on Humans in the Alliance narrative. We still have the Army from 3 giant Dwarven Clans lying around unused somewhere. But no, humans need to be used nonetheless
That’s stupid, because the night elves have the ability to be in stealth the night. Horde just waste recourses. Let’s hope that Sylvanas head will roll in a few patches.
And isn’t Stormwind part of the Alliance? Point is, citizens of the Alliance/Stormwind are being sent to the front, meaning even more innocent people will die there.
You were talking in terms of lore, and you still are. What I’m wondering is, if the lore tells me one thing but my in-game experience suggests another, what reason do I have to pay attention to lore? Is it even possible to ignore what you see in game (Horde in the ascendancy) in favour of what the writers tell you (Alliance winning) when the two are so dimetrically opposed?
Surely the draenei becoming fanatical has nothing to do with some proto-greenskins (no demons involved this time bro) killing about 70% of them and setting up events that led to Velen’ death. Also, in the mag’har recruitment scenario, Gorgrond is completely deforested, I wonder which race is known for deforesting things? Well, it’s probably okay, if we cut down the Amazon nothing would happen too, right?
Decades have passed since the last vestiges of the Legion were driven from Draenor. We could not have accomplished this noble undertaking without the aid of the orc clans, united as the Mag’har.
Our fondest wish is for all the people of Draenor to remain unified in purpose. Sadly, this dream is not shared by all of those who once stood beside us.
Many noble orcs have embraced the Light. Exarch Hellscream has been an example for his people to follow. Yet sadly, even his own father resists the true path.
I believe with all my heart that the Mag’har are destined to join us as servants of the Light. But first, they must be taught to trust the naaru as we do. The Light Mother has blessed me with visions. I know that one day the Army of the Light will march across the Great Dark Beyond and bring order to countless troubled worlds.
That bold future begins here. With us. We must make Draenor whole again.
I call upon you all to ensure that the future promised by the Light Mother is fulfilled. Purge the infection that prevents Draenor’s heart from being whole.
The Light will forge a new future for the orcs… but first, we must save the Mag’har from themselves.
No more division. No more defiance. In the Light, we shall be one.
Yep, nothing to do with a past grudge. “Noble orcs”, “dear friends”, “past comrades”,…
Doesn’t sound like they want any kind of vengeance now do they?
What I was doing initially was praising Blizzard for showing that the war will not be ‘won’ by anyone, since there is hardly any victory over a broken and scarred world. Regardless of who claims Darkshore, the land will be broken at the end of the battle, making the victory hollow.
I am willing to discuss that as long as it is clear that your point doesn’t have anything to do with my argument, since I was talking about something else.
Anyway, I do not think that gameplay and lore contradict each other here. If I am not mistaken, even Nathanos will claim that the Horde is losing on all fronts in the next patch. They’re still fighting in Darkshore of course, but as is clear from the next Raid for example, there is no reason to think that the Horde has the dominant position in the war.
The current war in Draenor is separate from the Iron Horde war, since High Exarch Yrel claims that she wants to convert everyone to the Holy Light. Yeah, there’s a chance that the previous war has ‘traumatised’ her, but that’s just guessing.
The Mag’har claim that the Draenei are responsible for that, as the land is scarred by the war.
I believe that this is the prime example of “continuity exists to enhance a story, not to tie the hands of creators”
Creators probably just don’t care that the entire expansion established AU Draenor’s orcs as genocidal aggressors who sought to dominate two worlds, slaughtering everyone around.
And all of a sudden we have Draenei cheering for the criminal Grommash without a word of explanation and Yrel referring to those bloodthirsty maniacs as “old friends”.
You know. Continuity. It’s apparently unnecessary.
Next patch we will learn that Anduin has always been a warmonger and Sylvanas is an undead Furbolg. Because continuity is NOT necessary for the story, apparently.
Yrel and Durotan did have a sweet moment of bonding fighting their old friend, Blackhand, though. Perhaps Grommash was extra friendly during those last couple of bosses in HFC where he finally was aligned with the player characters.
So yeah. Assuming Yrel is an easy-going, friendly type, she might have two orcish friends.
Random Draenei: “Hey! That’s the guy who started the war, tried to drive our species to extinction, butchered us left and right and had your own sister slaughtered Yrel!” Yrel: “Yeah, but come on, he was super friendly for the last 15 minutes.” Random Draenei: “What?! Hooray for Grommash!”
I mean, Grommash is the kind of guy who would drink demonblood, become a slave to the legion and kill a demigod just to get his buddy Thrall a steady supply of wood, it could happen.
Maybe they decided that the ‘culling’ we made with the Iron Horde removed all the ‘bad guys’ they had legit grievances with?
We did kill most the bad guys. Except Grom, yeah.
… but they’re not showing it. This is my point. I’ve played through most of the “war” stuff from both sides and the Horde side feels far more consistent and dynamic than the Alliance side. I’m not seeing the tough time the Horde are supposed to have had thus far in Darkshore or elsewhere, and the Battle for Undercity was far more hectic and congested for the Alliance. The Horde side is practially a stroll in comparison.
Blizzard and others keep telling me the Alliance is winning, so why doesn’t the in-game experience reflect this? Is it just me?
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Well, it’s probably okay, if we cut down the Amazon nothing would happen too, right?