[Horde] LFRP guild and a plea to the rp community

Agreed, i don’t care if it’s AD “sacred tradition” or whatever, do it somewhere else.

These 2 must be new here.

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This one didn’t tho. I’m still confused with your opening post, it’s a bit like a first date where one of the two ends up ranting about politics for two hours.

But I wish you goodluck with finding a great guild and I hope you’ll have fun :).

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I’m not, you trolls say whatever you want but so will I.

Hi not, you trolls say whatever you want but so will I.

I’m Tehya, and you have a weird name.

every time we do blizzbot consumes the thread :frowning:

He should wait till he sees tubri in action or birdgante’s nemesis.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Who’s that?

Perroy, who else?

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But where is Tubri? It has been many a moon since I saw him posting wildly inflammatory links/comments. Has he been put in deep sleep?

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i think his Girlfriend found out and paper-slit his throat with his own PHD.

Errr…… “Horde has no Roleplay” Me: “Yes it does”. Everything else was responding to other people. I mean by definition that is not making it about me, that is making it about the topic at hand, and refuting the idea that the Horde has no roleplay. Given that you are in a roleplaying guild on Horde side I find it odd that you would imagine otherwise. Perhaps what you -meant- to type was “When you dared to comment and other people swung into motion and made it all about you.” Which would have been more apposite.

Aaaanyway, -back- on topic. As people were suggesting before it all went weird, there are actually plenty of guilds that are pan-horde as opposed to race specific (I am aware of the hypocrisy of me typing that given that my own guild -is- race specific :smiley: ) You’ve got guilds like the Hand of Conquest, who I -believe- are open to all Kalimdor Horde races, possibly more, I don’t know, You have as mentioned the Rastari Pact, the Frozen Paw, the Wheel of Entropy, in fact it is pretty much ‘specific race only’ guilds that are less in number, a lot of people, quite rightly, like the idea of the Horde as a band of misfits, so you don’t tend to get the ‘Noble House’ guilds, not to say they do not or should not happen, especially in societies like the Sin’dorei or Shal’dorei, but you do not get it as much as on team blue.

Your points about the races are valid, OP, and oddly remind me of another thread, about Gnomes, and how they don’t all have to be zany bubbleheads. Tauren can be bad people, I mean they have a whole tribe of fairly bad people. Take the culture they are based on, which is undeniably that of the Native American people, look at (arguably) one of the most famous works of fiction regarding such people, ‘Last of the Mohicans’, for every Chingachook or Uncas there is a Magua. Races really are not ‘one size fits all’. Similarly Forsaken, one of the really tragic, and I mean -really- tragic stories is the short lived (In both ways!) fate of Tidesage Zelling. There is someone who became Forsaken for the noblest of reasons, to protect his family, even though they would hate the monster he had become in order to do so. That is an amazingly good character concept, he was willing to become something they would hate, because he loved them so much. I reckon, personally, that they could have done far more with that character, and explored a different side to the Forsaken, rather than the unremittent grimness, which frankly, whilst it is an appropriate motif, does grow a little tiresome when constantly rammed down your throat. The Horde is more than the sum of its atrocities or whatever fresh hell Blizz can lay at their feet.

I think that is already happening organically, and it is seen to be happening in game via the Horde Racial Leaders, You have three major groups at this point, You have Sylvanas Loyalists, who are loyal to Sylvanas above all else, you have Horde Loyalists, who are loyal to the Horde, over and above any one person, even the Warchief (Basically the Forsaken and Sin’dorei approach once Garrosh went off the rails), and then you have the “Wait and See” approach such as Thalyssra embodies. She thinks Sylvanas has gone nutso, but she wants to check with Lor’themar to see what he thinks, and take her cue from him.

I don’t -think- anyone is roleplaying a guild of actual Rebels at this stage, though plenty of guilds are slowly becoming more and more Horde-Loyal and not Sylvanas-Loyal, which is a neat trend, as it echoes the Garrosh story. Garrosh once commending Lor’themar for his loyalty, and Lor’themar remarking that he was loyal, to the Horde. Garrosh then saying “I am the Horde” and Lor’themar going “No, you are merely it’s Warchief” at which point Garrosh seems to have a reality check moment, and becomes suspicious (rightly) of the Blood Elves and how they see him. This is later confirmed when only a desultory amount of troops is sent by the Forsaken and Sin’dorei for his war effort, sort of a strategic ‘middle finger’ from the Eastern Kingdoms Horde.

With regards non RP names, its a thorny one, I mean there are blatantly obvious ones, sure, but then who is the arbiter as to what is or is not an RP name? How does it work cross language? Apparently Brigante means ‘Thief’ or ‘Rogue’ in Italian (I have no idea, I do not speak the language) yet I did not choose it for that, but rather an obscure reference to a Pre-Roman Celtic British tribe by that name. Where do we draw the line? Some things -are- obvious, other less so. How about Adjective names? I mean sometimes there may be a perfectly good reason for them, it may be a nickname, it may be simply because they couldn’t get the name they wanted (My Human female squaddie is named DeWilde, because Nixon was taken, I rationalised it that it was her father’s last name, who she now hates, so never uses it) It could be a bizarre name they were given by their parents, such as 'Inspector Morse’s ’ first name being ‘Endeavour’. That’s not a name! Who calls their kid ‘Endeavour’?

Thing with names though, is that with MRP and TRP a multitude of sins can be covered up, If I saw someone called WarriorXXX but their actual RP profile was detailed and their character name was, say, Simeon Dane, a 33 year old Alteraci mercenary who is an engaging person to RP with, then I’m not going to report that person, they’re making an effort, yeah, their original choice of name was unfortunate and probably made in haste and before they considered getting into RP, but y’know, they’re there now, so you cut them some slack. If WarriorXXX is jumping around and parking Mammoths on people, spamming Toys, then oh my word yes, I will set a world speed record for reporting.

Again, tricky. The Non RP community do fulfil a useful role on the server; The Economy. They know the Roleplayer Dollar sells well, that people will pay in character money for items that are absolute utter tat in terms of their in game effectiveness, but that -look- cool. So they will farm said items, and put them on the AH, They’re happy, they make in character gold, the Roleplayers are happy, we get that sweet item we wanted for our Transmog. No one loses. Often these people will then go “Actually, heck with it, I’ll give it a go” and get into RP themselves. If they don’t, as long as they aren’t messing with RP then…well, fair enough. I mean it isn’t the perfect realm for them, but that is their choice. Yes, they could go to places that better tailor their interests, but if they aren’t disrupting then just eh, let them be.

Mained Horde since TBC, got no plans on changing any time soon.

That is harder however, when Blizzard themselves don’t seem to know quite what that is, or how to define it. Alliance is obvious, it is ‘Murica’, Horde is what, Stalin’s USSR? Adolf’s Germany?, Terrorist nations? I mean it has went through so many iterations, some of which are radically contradictory that I don’t think anybody knows anymore, so it is -hard- to feel faction pride when even the writers of the game don’t seem certain as to what the faction is, apart from the ill defined ‘Baddies’. “But why are they baddies?” “Because they…umm…just are?” “Cheers, I grew out of that shiz when I grew out of Saturday morning cartoons”

Umm, My character is an Aerial Cavalry Officer. He is not a psychotic maniac unfit for military service, he is a soldier, not a psychopath. If he can only beat the Alliance by killing every one of them, he will do that, if he can beat the Alliance by killing some, and not the others, he will do that, if he can beat the Alliance without killing any of them, he will do that.

Because he is a Soldier, and a realistic character. You stop fighting when you win. There is a reason sporting games have a duration. You don’t keep fighting -after- you have won. You absolutely slam away with the iron fist, but when the other side says “Enough, I give in” You put on the velvet glove. That’s how you -win- Wars, not how you set up ‘Round Two’ in a generation’s time, a lesson which those who wrote the Treaty of Versailles would have been wise to observe…

You do make some good points, but I think you are going a little excessive on the Alliance hating malarkey, yes, they have some shocking stuff going on there, but, thats…not Faction exclusive, just more prevalent…

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I’m going to do it wherever the hell I want, and when I do it I’m going to do it like they do on the discovery channel

Salad is the best.

Salad sucks, and you suck for liking it.

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But what if I’m vegetarian! Dud…

I believe our Loa means another Salad.

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Then I retract my statement! That salad that is not the salad that was the salad we know is not the best.

Salad troubles me, it is like someone went “I’m going to have dinner, but I can’t decide what I want, so I will just throw everything at a plate and eat at random”

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I wish my character could learn from Versailles :confused: . Guess he’ll remain a blood thristy death knight instead !

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