While filled with sufficient amounts of salt and tears, this post is made to highlight the shortfalls of Warmode on rp-sharded realms. The second half discusses possible solutions. Comment if you agree or disagree with the points below, and if this is a problem or not.
While both factions have their horror stories of being ganked by unfair numbers by both side, lemme tell you right now that the new Warmode bonus given to the more populous faction has thrown EVERYTHING out of whack.
First of all, due to rules, rp servers are only sharded with other rp servers. While Defias et al. has always been relatively 50/50 faction wise, we really do benefit from the population increase. However, we mostly get sharded with Argent Dawn, which has as of this time a 71%/29% faction split favouring the Alliance.
This is a bit annoying as a Horde player, but it was workable. Even if 7 times out of 10 you start 1v1ing someone only to have more Alliance show up. Both factions still had their annoying warbands on some WQ’s etc.
Now throw in the Warmode 30% change, and it is like Anduin himself came down from the heavens and commanded everyone to turn on warmode. Holy Thrall’s Balls it’s like an apocalypse of paladins and dark-eyed night elves descending from their vengeful undergeared little tree-boughs to strike vengeance. You think the raid is called the Battle of Dazar’alor? That battle is nothing compared to what goes on at the docks holy hell. The cause of this is that despite Horde outnumbering Alliance on ALL Eu realms, I am fairly certain rp realms have an Alliance favoured WM pop.
Assaults (which were already hard) become nigh-on impossible. My undergeared alts cannot be in warmode without having a bad time. The free BoD heroic level item given for 25 horde kills has created ganking squads which pull more Alliance from other realms to our already underpopulated experience. The game has changed from find and kill the enemy into avoid and survive. The state of Horde WM on our shards is practically unplayable, finding pick offs until the main group finds you and ends you while shouting things in Common and making unintelligible gestures.
tl;dr Alliance WM bonus floods (like, actually floods) our rp shards with tons of Alli players due to Horde having the population advantage on non-rp realms.
Possible solutions:
Shard rp servers with normal server when Warmode is enabled.
If you’re gonna give the Alliance the 30% and weekly quest ilvl 400 item, then at least give us the population advantage.
Seperate the rp and normal realms when deciding which faction to give the WM bonus.
My personal favourite, this would give the correct faction the better rewards when they are rightfully the underdogs. Problems arise when you consider players from non-rp realms can join raid groups to phase with rp realms, possibly leading into more population inbalance.
Turn off Warmode
No. This is not a long term solution when the majority of the problem comes from the off-realm population imbalance.
So that is why I can no longer find hordies around… Makes sense yeah.
On serious note, I completely agree with you. It is ridiculous. I myself have also joined Defias because of its 50/50 pop and later on got involved in RP. I can’t see how it can be fun for someone to go 20 on 1, but hey, we’re all different, right?
Anyhow, I completely support this idea.
The amount of Horde with WM on keeps going down on the RP realms.
Zandalar is quite empty these days. Can’t blame the Alliance for coming to the docks, even with small 5-man groups. It’s the only place you might find some Horde left And the weekly quest is just too yummy guess.
You can’t do an incursion as Horde without coming across at least 2 Alliance 40 mans camping the quest.
I mean I get it, they’re getting their butts handed to them on the normal servers, so they join a RP shard and take their frustrations out on us.
The problem is bigger than just our realms though. You hardly see Alliance on normal realms cause its the exact opposite situation.
I miss the old Defias&Co without the invasion of Argent Dawn.
Yeah, can’t really blame the players. People -need- that weekly item, so they want to do it asap which usually means making a raid group. That brings other people into our little shard. Sorry blizz, I’m blaming you and your system.
100% agree, i’ve done wpvp every single day alone and with my friends, the sharding makes me sad! i could talk about warmode for hours, to make it short, Argent dawn and defias (and the rest) Don’t want to be on the same phase, as i’ve seen ofc, people just make raids after the 30% bonus to alliance funny thing is the server can’t handle a raid vs raid so most people don’t want to deal with it :’) I miss seing people from my realm, it’s always great to see other fella wpvpers. Well i will keep up my good vibes. Stay strong xoxo.
I Agree, I used to love the WPVP scene but nowadays it’s Hell! I don’t mind being outnumbered here and there, but when you can’t complete or even attempt the Assaults if you haven’t got all your guild members online - its a lost cause, Alliance go through the Assault like the Spartans ripping people apart due to their - what seems like infinite numbers (its probably not far off 300! :P)
Horde RP servers appear to have the worse deal here with, I’m sure a lot of others simply do not participate as it’s not fun getting constantly destroyed. I believe the separation of RP and Normal realms would help greatly in balancing this out.
I feel like the rewards for any sides at any time for participating in warmode explicity should be dynamical based on active number of participants on the other side rather than a fixed number they have to increase or decrease to incentivise people because this absolutely isn’t working.
For example: in Zuldazar 65% horde participants, 35% alliance participants -> alliance gets better rewards/XP in that zone. I’m not gonna claim numbers and say how much each has to earn at a certain point but it should definately be more agile in rewarding players this way. A fair fight is 50/50 participation with equal rewards IMO.
God you’re dumb. It wasn’t wpvp that week, it was just pve deluxe for alliance.
I ran around and just dotted horde players and got the quest done in no time on my alliance characters. No point in pressing anything else, they didn’t stand a chance. And it was like this on every server, rp or normal.
Now invasions quest on DB are still zerged by AD alliance players showing off their skills 5vs1, but at least other servers have a more balanced populations now so lfg is again an option for completing the quests.
Really? That’s the only thing you reply to? The one line that had nothing to do with this topic? And that’s coming from someone that still after all these years leaving this server still has some unhealthy obsession with this server?
Okay, I’m not going to contribute to whatever selfharm behaviour you are feeding with this. Bye.
It seems like you’re after a fight everywhere, dude chill, people do what they feel for, alot of WPvPers aren’t so into it lately because of this mess. Hopefully they will take a look at RP servers issues and make AD and Defias+ have their own phase.
And the weekly quest is just too yummy guess.