How come Mythic setting doesn't set ICC to Heroic 25 man

I simply said defaulting to 10 man normal should default to 25 man HC… its really isn’t that difficult.

Just because you explained it doesn’t mean i cant critique the flawed system

How is it flawed?
You can change the default, but then you would enter a raid for an item or mount from 10 man heroic and you are posting the same thing all over again.

That it defaults to 25 man hc and now you have to wait a week before you can attempt it again.

It literally wont solve anything.

The system isnt flawed, we have full control over the raid difficulties and we need said control to be able to earn transmog / mounts and achievements from legacy content.

Changing the default doesnt change a single thing.

People need to accept the fact they make mistakes and not blame them on companies because they dont want to admit they made a mistake.

yeah its dumb but now you’ll always remember:P

When setting something to a high difficulty within a game, you tend to assume it would just default you to the highest possible setting under it… most games do this, is there a reason this is different.

Im well aware i have to wait to tuesday and its not big deal, im just wondering why your so opposed to such a very simple change that would benefit unaware players… or just allow us to change difficulty atleast once incase of this mistake?

Because the system is very straightforward.

The difficulties are listed under your character dropdown menu, and are easily listed in all forms.
Hc / normal
10/25 man
And mythic.

All of a sudden this system is flawed out of nowhere according to you.

And only because you made a mistake.
If you would have checked, and would have noticed it wasnt on 25 man hc, you would have changed it.

Gave it another shot at a 1% mount and might have gotten it.

But because you didnt check the difficulty and lost a chance on a mount, you are calling a simple and fine working system to change difficulty flawed and needs to be changed.

But if you would have done HC 25 man icc, there would have been no post and you wouldnt even think to make a feedback post to change it.

Its all driven by your mistake.

Very true! Tuesday again to do the mount runs and double check the raid settings :smile:

The system would still be the same and straightforward… But selecting the highest difficulty, if not applicable, will default to the highest difficulty under it

And that works for games that didnt change how their difficulty changed across its lifespan and with all possible rewards being different depending on difficulty.

But its still defaulting to 10 man normal so why not HC 25

I always change difficulty like 4 times to make sure it’s the right one lol

Because that still doesnt solve a problem.

Next time you enter a raid which you want to do on 10 man HC for a reward, you will make the same post because you didnt check for the difficulty setting and entered said raid.

You cant solve the ‘‘issue’’ you are describing by changing the default.

Furthermore, it doesnt default to 10 man normal.

I just set HC / 25 man for ICC and then changed difficulty to Mythic before entering.
I just entered into 25 man HC icc.

So yeah, selecting mythic doesnt matter because it will ‘‘check’’ the other settings to which it has to set the raid difficulty.

https://imgur.com/a/525MDNi

The system is flawed.
It system should default to the next highest setting.
So stop defending this crap.

For him it set it to 10 normal, for you to 25hc, make it always set to next highest if it isn’t available.
Or do you have a problem with that request?

It didnt default something to anything.

I literally set:
25 man / Heroic in front of ICC.

Than i changed raid difficulty from HC to Mythic and i entered ICC.
I ended up in a 25 man HC version.
When i did it for 10 man / heroic the same thing happened.

I dont see the ‘‘flawed’’ part of the system.
You have full control over the difficulty, so just make sure you are in the correct difficulty, or is your time so precious you cant spend 2 seconds making sure you are actually in the correct difficulty?

Because if those 2 seconds matter so much, you might wanna ask yourself why you are spending hours on end to farm low % drops from legacy content to begin with.

But the whole ‘‘default’’ issue isnt even a thing if i can prove that it just keeps my ‘‘raid settings’’ if set to 25 man HC and than change it to mythic and enter.

And actually end up in a 25 man HC instance.

I can literally check how it works and tell you with actual facts it doesnt default you to anything.
So why change something that works just fine regardless.

And also, the next post of OP would be:
OMG i needed 10 man normal for X or Y transmog, but since it defaulted me to 25 HC i now need to wait another week for another shot at this transmog item or achievement.

You arent fixing anything by changing the default.
You can still make the mistake of being in the wrong difficulty no matter what you default it to.

You didn’t prove crap.
If it defaulted to 25hc for raids where the user set it to mythic, but the raid doesn’t have that difficulty, then the OP would have not had this issue occur.

And yes it works as the OP said it did, it happened to me too, but i checked and it was 10 normal, so i went back and changed it.

And you’re being illogical with your supposition on what the OP’s next post would be.
Since it’s logical to have the next hardest difficulty set if the highest one isn’t available.

So like i said before, stop being a contrarian to a feature that you don’t give a crap about because you always check.
This does not affect you mister troll, so go away.

The screenshot above told you otherwise, and i can recreate that screenshot with 12 different characters with the same outcome.
Since you cant change difficulty at all in the instance anymore.

So my difficulties where locked already when i entered ICC and made the screenshot.

And i didnt use some photoshop skills to show mythic.

And that works only in games where there are no rewards / or other options tied to the difficulty or reward the same items regardless of difficulty.
For all the dungeons and rewards we have now, from mounts to achievements and transmog its not an option.

Ill quote you on this one:

I mean, if my screenshots or actual checks for how it works dont count, why should your ‘‘experience’’ and OPs trump my experience?

Nah, i dont see a reason to leave a post on a general discussion forum to discuss feedback a certain poster left.

And the feedback only got ‘‘offered’’ after making a mistake, if the OP wouldnt have made said mistake this post wouldnt even be a thing because he didnt waste 1 week of precious 1% mount drop chances.

So yeah, this post in general is just funny to read.

No issue with the system at all, until the OP makes a mistake and now dont wants to own up to said mistake and tries to blame ‘‘the system’’ for it.
Which we have been using for difficulties for all raid and dungeon content ever since Wrath of the Lich King, which is just a mere 12 years.

Its funny how people just cant own up to their own mistakes but blame others for it, and always try to do so.

Now i know you’re trolling, you contradict yourself.

You say it defaults to next highest. Which is 25hc.

Then you write this pearl… where you contradict yourself.
Stating that we can’t have it work, LIKE YOU EXEMPLIFIED JUST ABOVE.

So which is it? Is it OKAY to move to the next highest difficulty or IT IS NOT?
Go to bed mister troll.

I never said it defaulted to anything.

I explained it thoroughly:

And ended up in a 25 man HC ICC instance.

Where is the contradiction?
When i went outside, and set it to 10 man heroic

Than set it to mythic difficulty, the outcome was the same.
I entered ICC and ended up in the 10 man HC version.

The mythic ‘‘tag’’ isnt known for those instances, so my best guess is, that it just keeps your settings that you had before selecting mythic.

There are different rewards from different difficulties, so if you default it to 25 man HC, you will end up having the same issues people have now.

I know its late, and you didnt read any reply i made so far.
Which shows in your own replies :smiley:

Rofl, see how you back out now?

The OP said it defaulted to 10normal.
You know why it did that, because that was the last setting he was using.

And let me write it out in bold and SHIFTLOCK for you.
THE OP WANTS IT TO DEFAULT TO THE HIGHEST SETTING POSSIBLE.

Is that clear?
Or do you want to troll some more?

So, its not set as default, thats his ‘‘personal’’ setting and not a Mythic setting issue.
If it would be default, it would be the same for everyone.

Mythic doesnt default you to 10 man normal, as standard. it has no default mode it goes back to last used difficulty.

Maybe thats easier for you to understand.

And then he enters a 25 man HC raid, when he actually wanted a 10 man HC raid, forgets to switch difficulties, loses out 1 reset of a chance on something and makes a new post the system is flawed.

This is the biggest point in this discussion:

No issue with the system at all, until the OP makes a mistake and now dont wants to own up to said mistake and tries to blame ‘‘the system’’ for it.
Which we have been using for difficulties for all raid and dungeon content ever since Wrath of the Lich King, which is just a mere 12 years.

Does it solve any issue we are discussing?
No

The logic used for the system is:

  • Defaults to the last used difficulty

The logic the OP wants:

  • Defaults to the next highest difficulty

The second logic is the one that makes more sense, as if you go to do the “hardest” mode for an instance, it should default to the hardest one possible.

Now let’s get back to you mister troll, you said you look at what difficulty you’re in always. This means that you don’t give a crap which of the logic written above is used.

So yes, you’re being a contrarian troll for no good reason.