How dead are the classic realms really?

Dears,

when I look into the realm browser for the classic realms, all of them show as low populated. Apparently all people are playing at Anniversary or SoD.

I just scanned the auction house at Auberdine realm and it showed 400 items only. At Anniversary I found 8000 items and at some SoD realm more than 12.000. This is clearly a sign that the classic realms are dead.

But how dead? Are they so dead that playing is impossible, that one never finds a group? Or are there some classic realms that are ‘not so dead’ as the others? Is it possible to join battlegrounds at classic realms?

Rgds.

Most realms are connected into bigger clusters - try scanning the action house at Firemaw or Pyrewood Village.

Auberdine is an abandoned (French?) server not connected to any other realms, and the number of players online at any time can fit into the 50 player limitation in /who …

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Pyrewood has ~1000 items in the auction house and the place in front of the Orgrimmar Bank is empty as a school yard in the afternoon.

On Classic Era?? I doubt so.
Are you sure you didn’t check Pyrewood in Cata Classic? (Or, is it MOP Classic now?)

Yes, on classic era. May be I was on an empty layer and therefore I saw no people except three or so, but the 1026 items at the Horde auction house don’t lie.

I see alot more on Ally side. So server is not dead :slight_smile:

Someone else a suggestion, at which realm something is going on?

Did you try Firemaw? It is still the biggest Era cluster, although Ally side is also bigger than Horde here?

For PvP the Firemaw cluster (Ashbringer, Bloodfang, Dragonfang, Earthshaker, Gandling, Golemagg, Mograine, Noggenfogger, Skullflame, and Firemaw).

For PvE all three English realms: Pyrewood Village, Mirage Raceway, and Nethergarde Keep are clustered. The population is low, but a lot of the economy happens in guilds, so many items never reach the AH.

PvE is Ally heavy, and PvP is Horde heavy.

And a few numbers Pyrewood cluster now:
Horde: 120 online - 3682 auctions
Alliance: 350+ – 12.099 auctions (60 Human showed 50+)

Why are you providing false information?
I just scanned the alliance ah in pyrewood exactly at 18:10 and it counts 3047 auctions. And for the past year ir rarely gets more than that.

Weird, I just scanned Ally AH as well: a little over 12k auctions.

Are you sure you are not scanning the AH on Pyrewood Village@Cata Classic? Because otherwise there’s something really wrong!? (I can’t check Cata myself since I don’t have it installed)

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I can provide you with a screenshot from my auctionator addon.

Absolutely. May be on Alliance side the results are different.

If you look at my numbers once again you’ll see Ally much higher than Horde:

Horde: 3.682 auctions
Alliance: 12.099 auctions

So if your scan is the Horde AH we totally agree :wink:

Why are you so aggressive? And how do you scan this few auctions. Just as Andruid I get

I am afraid you’re the one providing false information. But I feel like I’ve had this discussion once before. Someone used an addon, and claimed his numbers were somehow superior to the in-game numbers, and accused me of spreading false information. You’re probably an alt of that one.

Edit:
I just looked again at 22.12 server time
Ally: 12.979 auctions
Horde: 4.286 auctions

Since the OP didn’t mention Cata I assume it was Classic ERA. My honest mistake.

Well, I also understood it to mean Classic Era, my numbers are from there, because like Andruid I do not any longer have Cata installed.

In fact all my replies to this thread, concerning clusters, numbers, anything is only Classic Era.

If Jarlath is looking for info on the Cata servers, the dedicated Cata forum might give better and more correct answers.

Firemaw is still active with quite a few people in Orgrimmar, the AH is full, and my crafts are selling.
I think people are also coming back with the anniversary servers migrating to TBC.
I don’t spend my entire playing time there, but being able to wander around the maps with my R14 thief, meet a few players, and do a bit of crafting is nice.

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Era realm population is sort of supposed to yoyo.

When there is a hype season (or two at once), many players move there because you can find a lot of levelling instances, PvP, economy, character skill development, gear progression, proper raids, and of course the option to move to the next phase (BC).

In between those, era did rebound so far.

I doubt that era will ever again become borderline unplayable but the current situation should allow you to play solo content conveniently. While Anniversary is great for group content, it does feel like the Japanese metro-train system sometimes. And my memories from the turn of 2019-2020 were that upon hitting 48 and going to the last two level brackets (48-55 and 54-60, such as WPL-EPL), everything was farmed to death.

I do play era characters sometimes (very happy that it’s available long term) and I get regular guild invites. Last time I checked there was maybe one group in Deadmines and even that turned into a boost, unless it was a solo and a 3-man.

Elephant in the porcelain shop but I think era could also benefit from the LFD tool. LFG Bulletin is roughly the same and without an add-on, I can’t imagine glaring at spam so it’s a single player game. LFD allows you to keep questing while also announcing your interest in running a group passively. Based on my last /who Darkshore, there are enough people to form groups.

Era could benefit from automatic grouping as well. I still don’t understand why didn’t they implement a feature that was present in original vanilla.

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Automatic, too, but I just have to clarify that the LFD is the one we have in Era, first seen this way during WLK-C before the RDF-ICC patch.

It simply allows you to list yourself for a set of dungeons (and other activities) stating your role, as well as browse other people signed up for a filter of activities. It also doesn’t teleport anyone.

RDF tends to be a pressure point because it makes things cheap and expendable.