How do exactly work node spawns?

Is there any information about algorithms of node spawns? For example I’m mining. There could be Mithril, Iron and Tin nodes in that particular location. As far as I understood, every kind of node has predetermined spawn location, i.e. Mithril can’t spawn where Tin spawns (I’m aware that there could be rare spawns: Silver for Tin; Gold for Iron; Truesilver for Mithril). So if I target Mithril, I can only check Mithril spawns. What I don’t understand is how timers and all that stuff works. E.g. there are 3 mithril nodes. I took a route and mined them all. Will all 3 nodes respawn after some time? When they will respawn? Shall I keep running or I can afk for 15 minutes, because there’s a timer?

I am like 90% sure that I’ve mined iron and mithril from the exact same spots.

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Some locations can spawn multiple node types - some always spawn the same.

I am not entirely sure, but I think that all nodes in a zone/area seems to share a cap, eg. doing circuits for Mithril, if you dont mine that Iron vein that’s on less Mithril that can spawn.

Pretty much not. And gathermate supports this claim.

BTT: They are on a timer. But look out, every node has multiple spawn locations, or a “cluster” as i call them. Best seen in the demon area in south Winterfell. There are 3 large thorium and one small thorium deposits in the area, but where they spawn is random. Another example, there is one iron deposit on the rock pillar south east of Kargath, and when you find it on the most northern spawn, there won’t be another iron deposit in that “cluster” till the respawn of the node.

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Which part of my post do you object to?

I’ve had nodes spawn as gold/truesilver/mitril - both in instance and in the world, some will always spawn as the same type some, some will always ( or at least from I’ve never had a variation ) the same type of node.

As for the cap thing it’s a theory, for instance in the cave west of Hammerfall, if you leave the iron nodes no Mitril nodes will spawn - suggesting that there is a “group” of nodes that share spawn. The bloodstone nodes in the cave seems not to influence this.

As for data points; I’ve mined well over 500 ores - both solo farming mara and the world.

Some nodes have shared spawns
But most of them are just fixed timers.

I meant the claim that different metal types (not the “green” noble metals) can spawn on the same node.

And most nodes are on a standard timer. Best seen in Thousand needles, where you find coper, tin and iron all over the area. And i always leave the tin and copper and gather only the iron. And those iron nodes then spawn normally after a few minutes, regardless how man other nodes were mined or not.

It may depend on location but what usualy would happen is that game would roll what type of node to spawn from available for a given zone. And so you would see more an more non iron nodes. There can be additional limits/caps but like mob spawns do not and you can get almost birdless Tanaris when people kill only birds for cooking quest.

I think this is key. Some nodes can vary, others can’t.

Exactly this doesn’t happen. Minerals have fixed spawn points. Look at the ressource map of the badlands. You will see that the normal areas in the middle and west of the map have more or nearly exclusively iron spawns, and mithril is found on the plateaus with the earth elementals and the more difficult dragon area in the east. Every spawn has a cluster of 2-4 locations where it spawns, the type of the metal is not random.

OK, stop. If you’re talking about the ones to the south that’s one thing, but I have mined both iron AND mithril from the north.

What do you mean “from the north”? You can’t get mithril and iron from the same node. Maybe there are nodes that are very nearby, but not the same. On the plateau in the north with the small earth elementals are two spawns, one iron and one mithril. And you will get always one of each. You will never see two mithril or two iron spawns in this place.

This is how the game works, everything else would be bad game design. With random spawns, you could get metal nodes of a quality which are not suited for the area you are in. If you want to farm exclusively mithril, you have to be able to get into the elite dragon valley in the east. If you are not high enough, you are forced to mine some mithril and mostly iron on the rest of the map, with most of the mithril nodes “locked” behind the lvl 43 earth elemntals on the plateaus.

The plateau to the north that spawns earth elementals. Come on, man, I didn’t make it hard.

I already answered you, in the same post, two sentences after the question … What is your point?

Something like “don’t ask questions you already know the answer to”. Maybe on a wider level “don’t ask rhetorical questions, it just gives people the opportunity to derail what you were saying”.

Maybe it’s just “you only asked that question to be a jerk on the forums and that is kind of unnecessary”.

Take your pick. There are number of really good lessons to learn here.

What the heck you are talking about? I try to tell you how mining spawns work. Many here are just spreading wrong information, which is a really bad thing on the forum. Can you just get back to the topic and stop lecturing me about BS? Thank you.

For all the people that are still thinking, that one node can spawn two different metals (we’re NOT talking about green metals like gold, we’re talking only about the standard metal types), please compare the iron deposits locations in the badlands with the mithril deposit locations in the badlands (classic-wowhead has the info) and draw your conclusions from this. Please note, those locations come from thousands of data miners, not just a few, so the information is reliable.

Yes, I read your whole post and had nothing further to add to most of it. It’s entirely possibly you are correct. But asking me what I mean and then immediately demonstrating that you know perfectly well what I mean is poor form to say the least. And I think you know that too, which means that in a sense I really am lecturing you about BS - yours. That is what I am talking about

Rich Thorium nodes can spawn as Truesilver, which sucks balls when it happens xD

All of the green metal spawns suck :frowning: I’m in the middle of sklling Ingi through mithril and i’m making money with iron grenades. And every iron or mithril node which comes out as silver, gold or truesilver is a massive disappointment, so i’m with you :smiley: It’s even worse when you hard farm thorium for arcanite and you get this truesilver s hit.

But what about timers? I’m still wondering. I made an observation that there’s exactly 3 nodes of ore in location I’m farming, if I let it respawn. So after I did route and got all 3 nodes, shall I just do other things for a while and then get another route to get 3 nodes or I have to keep running and hoping for faster respawns?