How do i increase my m+ rating?

For a 16? You know everyone timed 16’s already without set bonusses and 2nd leggo, don’t you? Really, classes do not matter for the 16-20 levels (and probably a bit higher neither).

A prot warrior doing +20’s is probably a very good prot warrior. I would invite that tank instant.

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The fact that no particular class is required is not equivalent to classes not mattering.

If you have a group that does twice as much dps as another one just by riding the imblanaces of their composition, it at the very least allows you to achieve the same with half the effort (which by itself is enough added value for people to favor imbalanced classes over the rest)

Let’s just hope the balance in DF gets better.

I should be easy easier now for them to balance things better without:

  • conduits
  • legendaries
  • covenant abilities (4 different ones at that)
  • soulbinds

Tier sets as the only borrowed power is manageable i guess.

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With 273 ilvl you can just pull 1 pack at a time and still 2 chest the dungeons, with any spec. And better take a ret pala for more interrupts to make the dungeon easier.

You want the potential 3 chest and more of 16’s.

I have played s1 with a ret pala in my group, and sometimes right now we get another from a community who is doing +20’s too. Really people should stop making these wrong thoughts classes matter for +16’s. What matters is people knowing their class.

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Did a 12 key on my DK alt…as tank i head the most interrupts. The ret in this group had the whole dungeon one single interrupt… And i think he never used his stun…

Depends also a lot on the players.

But i agree with you 100%

That is why it is bring the player not the class for those levels :slight_smile:

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So if you need a ret when you do something between 15-20 , call me :call_me_hand::joy:

We are relatively often asking for a dps in the failtrain discord. Allthough it is every week different :grin:

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Need to find that community :smiley: thx for the tipp

You reroll to necro blood dk or venthyr Guardian druid :wink:

People in those key levels have absolutely no clue about their class nor any awareness of what’s going on.

Why take retri palacwhen you can take one of hundreds freshly rerolled survival Hunters ?:stuck_out_tongue:

The ret pala can probably play their class. And i already have a survival hunter in my group :stuck_out_tongue: The survival hunter is playing survival for whole shadowlands already. Not a FOTM reroller.

We timed 20’s (up to +23) last season with a survival and demolock… idk what the problem is with taking non meta’s.

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The problem are MDI, tier lists and utility that forms that mentality.

I mean tier lists are at least good to point out flaws and Problems between specs.

I do not know this word as feral.

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combat res, soothe, roar. No utility, coming from a druid. The mind boggles.

Battle rez?

Yes you get more score the higher dungeons you do per dungeon. You need each dungeon
Higher score at both forti and tyran as long as u want more score.

Go into my profie and check the value i get from each dungeon:

My highest dungeon lvls for one dungeon atm is 24 Fortified NW and 23 tyran NW.
The total score from it gives me 340,6 SCORE- (257 from forti week at +24, and 83,6 from tyran week at lvl 23. ( the highest dungeon you do per dungeon always give more score count than the lowest).

If you know the way i do, as a solo player, I make sure all dungeons i do is on pair. it means as an example, i try to do all dungeons at 20, then all dungeons at 21 and all dungeons at 22. til a certain point, i dont try to sign for groups in a +25 key if i only have a +15 or 18 or 21 or 23. however if i got a few dungeons at 23 and some 24, then i think its ok to sign for a 25 as well… anyways, try to make your score per dungeon as even as possible at the same time as high as possible as well, it makes it more easy to get an inv.

Pretty much every time I have had a retri paladin in my group they die on trash pulls they have wings for. They just pop everything as the tank pulls and then die.

Well, that player probably would be terrible on his FOTM destrolock too.