Random pugs. And like i said; i untimed 1 key of the 11. But i am not bailing out on a run where we untime it by 5 minutes. So i have no leavers and a 100% finish rate.
Sounds like you are only interested in perfect runs so you bail out yourself. Truth is in a group of 5 80% of the mistakes will be made by other people than you. So it looks like you group up 80% of the time with terrible groups. No run will ever be perfect anyway.
I cleared HC raid in week 3 and i didn’t even bother to kill mythic bosses even tho i can clear first 4 if i want for vault to me it’s just pointless for a +10/11 keys gameplay
I dont raid at all not even HC and I think +10 are very easy. Mostly easier than 8 du the difference of the player you play with 
I played with Puny! Dawnbreaker 10!
Challengers peril is introduced here and makes pugging suck.
That doesn’t make sense though. +7 is minimum for hero gear, so in m+ you wouldn’t even have any gear to use crests on. Yeah ik…delve. but that’s not m+
Vault rewards from +3s are hero, which is why the argument of “I got this item I should be able to max it out with ease” doesn’t really make sense to me.
597-606 is normal
610-619 is heroic
623+ is mythic.
Yeah but in dungeon drops and weekly are not the same
They aren’t in delves either.
Well. if my skill stops me at my current ilevel to complete anything but 5 or 6. Wouldnt it be a path to follow, to get vault loot once a week and try to max it out the following week? would sure take a long time, but atleast grindable… not deadstop
in theory .
but in reality its like - if they hard stopped at 619 itlv rewards from m+ GV ? whats the point of even playing when they can get exactly the same from lol-easy dvelves.
and then - whats the point of farming for months to get to 619 only for then to having to farm again gilded crests with 0 option to get myth track gear ? no point even trying.
and you see it in completion numbers - we are already 1 mln less m+ runs compared to week 1. lets see how many less happened last reset when reddit shows week 8 resoults.
you gotta realise its deliberate - its desperate attempt to force people back into toxic mythic raiding guilds just do they get mythic gear to even progress m+ .
When someone’s skill level caps out at +5 or 6, he is not going to mythic raid. With all respect though.
The idea is in M+ you have farmable champion gear with also the corresponding crests, which should bring you into +7-8 territory for hero track and gilded crests so you can go up to 626 which is overgearing +10’s, where you get your weekly myth track item.
you never were in those lower progress mythic raid guilds were you ? 
No, i am not a raider. And i am still not getting forced into it.
What’s your point?
If your skill stops you at 5/6 you’ve got much bigger problems than gilded crests.
Maybe switch your focus to gameplay improvement, learn the mechanics better. Get some new weakauras to mitigate whatever you are failing.
Increasing your ilvl doesn’t change much if you keep failing the same thing
Yeah true, there is a path!
It is 15? crests per upgrade and 3-4upgrades/slot x15 so around 650 crests± to go to 619 with champion.
You get 12 for each dungeon…so its 55completed keys… 27h gameplay. and then you need to do the same for 619-626?
Another 27h.
For the average joe that maybe spend 5-8h/week playing. thats an 8week progression to end up at 620+.
Well, maybe it is as intended then. And i guess then the path choosen from devs in tww aint for me :D, coming from earlier expansions and some classic. never spent 8weeks farming “pre-bis”.
+++But i tried out some dungeons in that No-pressure community, alot more relaxed and fun game. ty for tip!
Sure thing, but its a wisdom old as Wow… that good gear gives some padding for mechanics. But your right.
You are also getting a vault. The amount of crests needed goes down by a lot But i also would say; 5 hours a week playtime is a rather low amount for a game like Wow.
Everyone should have realistic expectations of their end goal. Probably it is better to focus on having fun in the game than getting ilvl.
Of course they are! Just like people that have done +9’s are +10 players
Duelist players are Glads… Didn’t you know? Once you complete the previous level, you are automatically categorized in the next!
Can’t wait to put “Multi season mythic raider” in my LFG applications 