Hello, I am writing this post in the hope to get an insight on the way honor is calculated in wow classic. I don´t really understand the way my character was ranked this week, and the wowhead page isn´t really helping making it clearer.
I play on Hydraxian Waterlords and I started pvping last week around sunday. By last wednesday I got 35 honorable kills and approximately 9000 honor points, with a standing somewhere in the region of 180. At the weekly reset I was promoted to rank 2 (from 0).
SInce wednesday I started grinding AV and I ended up earning approximately 150.000 honor with 3000+ HK and got from rank 2 to 4. My standing became 18, which as far as I understand means that there are only 17 players on my server who earned more honor than me. At the same time I see a player who only earned 30.000 honor, received a standing of 92, still they are also rank 4.
I really can´t figure out how these numbers make sense, if as wowhead states the weekly rank is awarded when ones honor is compared to other players on the same server.
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Are you sure that guy was from your server? BG’s are cross-server. Also you’re only competing against people of your own faction.
Keep in mind there’s also a maximum increase you can get per week, you won’t be able to go from Rank 1 to Rank 14 in a week even if you’re standing 1.
You also lose rank each week if you didn’t earn any(Or at high rank enough) honor for that week.
Just because that guy is also rank 4 doesn’t mean he’s PvP’d more or less than you, it’s possible he’s done ranking and is now losing rank each week.
Yes, the toon was on my own server. Was just somebody I inspected in IF.
Also, his/her highest rank ever was 4, which would suggest there is no rank loss.
This might help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFbX5drsnAw
Take it from someone who’s reached Rank 13 twice.
There is rank loss and it’s quite heavy.
That actually made sense for me. So the standing doesn´t actually mean you will get a higher rank than other people on your server, it is just there to show you how much hnor you earned in comparison to other players. Also as far as I understand there is a limit for how much RP you can earn per week, didn´t know that.
I guess I should see my rank 4 after 2 weeks of pvp as a good result, rather than a let down.
Thank for the help everybody!
150k standing 18??? free rank 14 wtf…i stopped pvp in golemagg, 900k honor standing 6 or 7 xD no ty
Realms with such absurdly low caps usually have low pop and very small brackets. So standing 18 for him is probably like br4 or br5.
Like I said, you cannot possibly go from Rank 0 or 1 to Rank 14 in one week even if you did four billion more honor than the guy at standing 2.
So Rank 4 in 2 weeks isn’t terrible. Keep going, do know that the higher rank you are the higher the requirements to keep increasing is too.
Actually that all depends on if they have people on the server who are bloating. On Gandling Alliance side our pool shows up at around 1000 toons on Honor spy but a lot of delete bloating takes place which raises our pool to 4000+ this is also helped by other servers who bloat for us and in return we do the same for them.
I’d imagine the same thing happens on servers with such low population and caps too because when players catch wind of low caps they transfer to the server for an easier time ranking and will no doubt try to bloat to create more space in each bracket. I know this was the case on Flamelash Alliance with players transferring together and bloating.
Honor system in Classic is a mathematical nightmare. I would suggest contacting some top rankers on your server if you want to get into serious ranking. They can explain to you how it works. Happy ranking! I quit last week at R11.
It’s not as easy as it looks.
I’m playing Horde side on the same RP server as the OP and it’s similar here. Standing 18 on a server with several thousand players in the pool sounds nice. It’s not so nice when the pool is 100-200 players.
I’ve seen plenty of level 1s scouting the PvP queue area in Orgrimmar, asking questions and thinking “lul RP server, free rank 14”.
The brackets here are miniscule. We have like 4-5 players in bracket 12+. And these players are still online for inhumane hours and the top two going over a million honor per week.
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