From Teldrassil to the Warchief revolving door, are they a stout patriot or do they want a snap election?
Are the Horde’s current values well defined enough and shared between the races?
Do I just want to see some Horde conversation?
He views the Horde as dangerously based
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Weak, fangless, disorganized and ripe for being turned into an indentured work force in the Cauldron
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Depends really!
My vulperas view didn’t change much of late. She sees them as reliable, stout-hearted people who band together for the right thing and have a good connection to the spirits and the elements, so she’s content.
My undead mage just largely does not care, beyond the Desolate Council and their choices affecting the Forsaken at large; about which she’s skeptical.
…And as for my goblins, well, so long as profit can be made they’re happy, so the Horde is as good for them as prior really!
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The Dark Talons serve the Horde. He serves the Dark Talons. He now serves the Horde.
Simply as, not his place to question his leaders decision of allies.
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He was unsure about the state of it by 8.2.5, but by now in the timeline, he’s pretty fine with it. Thrall’s ideals seem to be returning, stability and peace that has lasted for nearly as long as the one of the post-Third War times has been established, and the few times the Scourge or the Primalists have piped up in Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms, they’ve gotten pretty much instantly curbstomped - without mentioning that his capital home is back, Sylvanas is gone, and 3/5ths of the Desolate Council are leading his faction (alongside Calia and Voss, which he isn’t too sure about due to the former’s nature as… just, her entire thing; and basically knowing next to nothing about who Voss even is), as well as the return of Alonsus Faol to Lordaeron.
And now that he’s learned a little bit more about draconic lore, he’s a bit more confident knowing that two tyrants had more than half of the Horde actively try to topple them, compared to Stormwind which was effectively led by Deathwing’s daughter for over a decade and pretty much none of them realised, only for Stormwind nobles to seemingly have a lot more power again in recent times.
All in all, he thinks that things could be better, especially if the past could just be swiped away; but things could be A LOT worse.
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Greenpilled
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A good people that have suffered and still do suffer poor leaders, but nonetheless generally do what’s right despite the efforts from the Alliance and other outside forces to undermine them, even if a leader needs to be evicted now and then. Better that than rulership simply being inherited without merit.
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Interesting people who can make for good drinking companions.
Or plunder targets.
Nothing personal, it’s just good business.
Hopefully they’ve finally learnt their lesson and we don’t have to beat them up -again-.
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I love the Horde, they’re good guys and they’re extremely good guys.
Let me read this unrelated diplomatic missive.
Apparently they’re the best guys, love those guys.
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This is the sort of unbaised, unswayable opinion I’m looking for.
They need to be culled.
Orcs don’t belong here.
Trolls are nuisances.
Tauren can be alright but their entire political alignment was decided by killing a few centaurs.
Undead are unnatural abominations.
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I dunno about that one tbh, the Centaur were trying to wipe out the Tauren in Kalimdor… BEFORE the Horde at that.
Oh, I think I remember that Thrall came to Kalimdor in WC3, helped Cairne kill a few hundred centaurs. Then Cairne was like: “You have my totem!”
I may be oversimplifying it or misremembering though!
Yeah you’re right on Thrall coming to Kalimdor in WC3, helped Cairne and his people find a place to survive against the Centaurs and in return Cairne pledged to aid Thrall iirc.
Centaur were the aggressors first, they were out for blood and wiping out the Tauren as a whole, I think they would have succeeded too if Thrall hadn’t helped out.
Hey, to be fair, this is a character’s IC view. In-universe, people can have skewered views about world events, biases, etc. There is no need to start going “but that’s not how it is” over a character’s subjective opinion.
But yeah, the actual event that happened in Warcraft 3 there was that the Tauren were getting massacred throughout the entirety of Kalimdor by a swarm of centaurs ever since the War of the Shifting Sands a thousand years earlier without the night elves giving a damn about it (because they were busy with the War of the Shifting Sands, then went into hardcore isolation for a thousand years), only for the orcs and trolls to pretty much show up and fix all their problems in 3 weeks.
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Yeah that IS a fair point, I’ll agree there. 
Yeah sorry if I didn’t make it clear, mainly interested in IC characters views based on what they know!
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Since this character had basically been living in seclusion since the early days of Cataclysm, she required to adapt to quite a few new notions on which she still hasn’t formed a proper opinion. (Like wth is up with all these elves? What’s a vulpera? ANOTHER OUTLANDS?)
However, having grown up in Lordaeron during the wars and having treated the victims of their invasions, she holds a negative view of any orc and mistrusts them deeply, seeing them as the prime influence that led to the downfall of her homeland. Once regarding trolls as little more than gnolls, she was recently introduced to a Zandalari troll being able to call upon the Light, which has given her prenotions pause.
Now serving a higher calling, she tries to adapt to the current age and will be open to accept the races of the Horde as potential followers, although this will require quite the willpower to overcome her distrust.
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