How hard is it to find and ban bots?

[Htdina-lone-wolf]

@Credulon-thrall

Again, you seem to have simply missed the point taht was originally being discussed.

I was simply correcting you on false statements.

@Credulon-thrall

Most Users, which I think we can both agree applies to the majority of the people on these or any other gaming forums, do not usually think of the swapfile or other VM when they speak or RAM or Memory, but are specifically referencing the physical memory itself.

I can’t think for others, but if you think like this it simply reinforces how little you know about how memory works in Windows.

@Credulon-thrall

Warden does not, for example and as Zug suggested, scan any RAM that is not being used by the WoW client itself

If I read this sentence I’m thinking about virtual memory, since that’s how process memory is structured in Windows. Also, this is just false.

@Credulon-thrall

And just as you assumed that the discussion was about all memory, I assumed that you were cognizant of this, and were therefore arguing an untruth.

I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say anymore.

@Credulon-thrall

No harm, no foul, we have clarified the disconnect and can now move on.

There is no disconnect. You are just factually wrong and trying to shuffle semantics to end up with some half-truth.

[Credulon-thrall]

@Magiola-darksorrow

in-game gold becomes virtually worthless as it cannot escape the WoW ecosystem

Actually, it can via the token… but the conversion rate is so abysmal that without paying customers it dwindles down to botting to buy game codes to sell on 3rd party sites, which is probably not lucrative enough anywhere where wages are more than 1$ /hr.

@Htdina-lone-wolf

I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say anymore.

@Htdina-lone-wolf

There is no disconnect. You are just factually wrong and trying to shuffle semantics to end up with some half-truth.

And now you´re just trolling because you´re not professional enough to simply accept there was an obvious miscommunication, but instead have to continue your attempts to “win” a discussion on an internet forum.

Have fun on the forums, this was the last time we ever interact.

[Richardhuntr-silvermoon]

@Credulon-thrall

Warden does not, for example and as Zug suggested, scan any RAM that is not being used by the WoW client itself, in compliance with DPLs. And that was the entire point of that subsection.

I don’t know what Warden does as I’ve never worked for Blizzard, but I imagine it’s against the forum rules to talk about it what may or may not do.

GDPR means very little here as there are some very invasive (and legal) anti-cheats out there, such as the one Valorant uses, legal because the player accepts what they do as part of playing the game.

That said, I agree with you that fighting bots is not as simple as banning APIs as others have suggested, and doing such a thing would have an insane impact on the game.

[Keento-argent-dawn]

@Richardhuntr-silvermoon

I don’t know what Warden does as I’ve never worked for Blizzard, but I imagine it’s against the forum rules to talk about it what may or may not do.

GDPR means very little here as there are some very invasive (and legal) anti-cheats out there, such as the one Valorant uses, legal because the player accepts what they do as part of playing the game.

That said, I agree with you that fighting bots is not as simple as banning APIs as others have suggested, and doing such a thing would have an insane impact on the game.

Warden monitors for malicious behavior on a system as well as running multiple clients.
It’s labeled “spyware” by the Digital protection act organization in the US, but legally speaking, they are not doing anything wrong, since you accepted the EULA when playing the game that clearly states that Warden runs and scans your System.

There’s privacy concerns raised, but Blizzard has stated in legal hearings that the information is anonymized outside the accountID, which is sent to the server for identification. So it’s confirm with GDPR in what it collects and sends.

[Etheras-nordrassil]

@Punyelf-draenor

I’m not sure why people dislike ban waves so much. Either way the botter is back within 24 hours on a new account.

Because ban waves are like the first phase of the Emu war. Just posturing.

[Zulaipa-magtheridon]

This is the one and only good answer.
No demand means the end of gather bots.

Some players will still use bots to show off they are such brilliant players.