I dont think its that, they have to make upgrades to the game from time to time to stay relevant and incorporate new ideas. Reasonably most people who play games would change or upgrade their equipment every so often. The minimum specs for this game to run are so far out of date its insane,
CPU: Intel Core i5-760 or AMD FX-8100 or later
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 4 GB RAM (8GB for integrated graphics such as Intel HD Graphics)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 2GB or AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB or Intel HD Graphics 530 (45W)
Tbh they’re in line with the minimum graphics. One problem is there’s massive lack of CPU optimization both for specific encounters as well as combat in general. I don’t know what upgrades they’ve made but I don’t believe dots tick so much harder nowadays or that encounter logic is so much heavier on the client PC…
The other is that on minimum graphics the game is unplayable. Not because it’s ugly but some boss mechanics (which are already covered by 3 layers of unnecessary garbage) turn basically invisible.
I don’t think the majority of players can maintain 60FPS during raid combat, and for people like myself this is an absolute requirement to be able to enjoy a game.
I could care less how much eye candy a game has if I’m not getting a smooth experience.
I’ve read this several times, and I still don’t understand anything by it.
Removing Transmog and Achievements - and even more, extra continents - would of course cut the storage and RAM requirements hugely. But that would do nothing for CPU and GPU when standing idle at tha same point in Northrend.
Well maybe you are right, im not a software dev so i dont have any idea how it all works really.
I only care that my game works and plays at a level that i am happy with. And it does.
The bottom line is that if there was a fundamental game issue that rendered it unplayable it would impact on everyone and NO ONE would be able to run it properly.
There are so many variations of software, addons, parts and drivers that it would be impossible for Blizz to test each one and make sure its perfect.
And like i said, its fine for me and everyone else that i play with.
And for others, it doesn’t.
I’m running an i5-2300 and a GeForce GTX 1050.
“bruhh, that’s garbage”. Just wait a second.
I’m getting ~25 FPS in LFR with my CPU being near 100% and GPU around 30-40% load!!! And that’s with addons disabled so no, they’re not what’s killing my framerate.
Now, I understand games need to evolve and all, but will someone please explain to me why today’s encounters eat SO MUCH MORE CPU than in the old days?
I’d understand if WoW were a sandbox or colony simulator, but it’s not.
because it has way more mechanics (wotlk raid mechanics are almost equal to df dungeon mechanics) , skill effects are better and with all the texture updates over the years even your own char. doesn’t look the same like it did back in wrath . if u multiply the upgrade with 20 chars that means too much graphic difference.
wow is a more cpu issue than gpu since even the modern graphics aren’t actually very modern and with all the reasoning that’s been given by others , it’s very normal that you get 25 fps in raids with that cpu, your problem is about your cpu the op’s issue is about the game and addons etc.
The CPU is overloaded by a massive number of events firing, such as dots/hots ticking, people gaining/losing buffs, procs and so on.
This has always been the same. No, actually in classic dots ticked a LOT more often to the point where blizz had to reduce their frequency and merge their damage for this exact reason.
I KNOW this is on blizzard because in SL there were multiple moments in fights (including pulling a raidboss) where everyone’s screen would freeze/stutter for a few seconds due to the CPU being overloaded by too many events (including streamers with million dollar PCs).
Most of these were fixed after a few months so it was definitely blizzard’s problem.
Since classic we’ve gotten much better CPUs so I’m not buying the “there’s more debuffs on a bossfight than in classic” excuse. It’s just not how it works.
that’s worse than min. required specs for dragonflight so you can’t blame blizzard for that. the min. rec is 4th gen and yours is 2nd, 12 year old cpu. it’s natural for you to get low fps .
Those 2 gens make zero difference since a 10th gen is marked 60% faster than my current one.
No, it’s really not. I can overload any CPU with a program that shows a spinning circle if it’s poorly designed. This wasn’t a gradual change over the years due to fights becoming “more complex”. They did something to their event handling or interface that wastes CPU resources.
If I had to guess it’s a result of them heavily guarding and sandboxing their API so it can’t be hacked. And the layers of virtualization probably came at the cost of efficiency. Or it’s simply poorly optimized because “hey it runs on the PCs of the 1% who streams it, who cares about the rest LoL”.
well it clearly makes a difference so that they did put the 4th one as min. req and not 2nd gen
don’t get me wrong your cpu isn’t bad but it’s kinda dated and they literally tell you that it won’t be enough for the game so it takes your right to complain about it . maybe it could be done in a way to have better optimization for older gens but they clearly didn’t want to go older than 4th gen and that’s their decision.
it’s not like the 1% tho, there have been like 8 new gens of cpus since yours. all i’m saying is , your issue is expected , op’s is also expected but not something blizzard warns about.
Nah bro, I just reinstalled the entire Windows, even tried deleting the WTF folder to go back to 0, and I’m still getting mid-40s fps in Valdrakken, it even went under 40 in certain spots lol.
This is as stock as it gets and without addons, so there’s literally nothing that can cause any problems on my end other than the game itself. If someone is actually getting 100 fps in Valdarkken main square during the day and while it’s full of players, feel free to post a screenshot as I’m calling bs otherwise.
If your system is this under-utilized while at low FPS then it’s either a driver or a configuration issue. The only alternative is if your whole client is running on a single core and it’s maxed out. But this is basically impossible.
Do ctrl+shift+escape → performance → CPU and check the highest core % usage while in valdrakken.
And don’t get ME wrong. The amount of stuff the client has to process compared to classic hasn’t nearly increased by enough to warrant the increase in CPU load.
how can u possibly know that lol but you’re right about this, your cpu is lower than wotlk classic min req too so if u get smooth gameplay there , in raids, then you should be able to get something ok in df too, with low settings.
I get 30 fps on a lower end machine with lowered graphical settings in an empty town while standing still and looking at a wall. Meanwhile, its going above 100 fps while flying around dragon isles with most of the continent in view.
It’s a strange combination of mist and cloud effects in the distance and might have something to do with the hundreds of unnecessary dragons flying around.
I’ve revised Howling Fjord, a zone more impressive in visuals and scale than all the stuff in vicinity of Valdrakken and my fps is at 200+ with no stutters and drops with view and draw distances at max setting.
It is ridiculous how badly optimized the newer expansions are and they actively keep reintroducing same problematic graphical effects which provide no significant benefit to player immersion or overall feel of the open world.