On a one-to-one comparison, no they’re not ‘equal’ but… I do think that LOTS of WQ effort vs doing 1 mythic raid per week CAN definitely be equal - Something like… a currency that you can save up and if you max it out then maybe once every month you can buy a piece of ‘okay’ ilvl or an upgrade for such a piece. That way it would take really long if you’d want a complete set (insanely long if you want to upgrade it all). And that’s fine imo.
Good to hear! I do think that many people would like seperate progression, at least for world content because then that would mean that people doing PvP, M+ or Raiding will no longer feel forced to do world content. It will become totally optional. Which is good for everyone, I suppose.
First; your examples are pure hyperbole.
Second; you can’t do content afk, unless you’re leeching which is never okay no matter what content you’re doing.
I’m not going to go into it because it’s all off topic for this thread.
I’ll gladly discuss it in a proper thread.
Legion i dont really remember how it was.
in bfa mythic nyalotha was 475 and mythic+ 15 weekly chest was also 475 (end of dungeon was 465). there werent any sockets dropped from boss.
but in 8.3 what you wanted was very specific corruptions (a sort of special stat), which was random from chest. (also was later sold by a vendor)
bfa m+ was at its best. dont know why they made those changes.
In legion we had heavy titanforging. The M+ weekly chest rewarded 5 ilvl below mythic raid ilvl, but with so many TF-items it was not really a difference. Allthough we had tier sets to get from the raid, which also titanforged.
I am currently running M+19-21 with 2 items of 239 ilvl with a dom socket (wrists and hands). Not too happy with the current system.
Your comment gave me an idea… What about something like this:
Have a new form of titanforging in the game.
BUT, when it procs the extra ilvls you get for the item are ONLY active within the content you got the proc in. So; you get a TF proc in a M+ dungeon; that proc will only be active when you’re in a dungeon.
I’m 240 with no raid gear, and i have no viable upgrade path unless i find a tank spot in a serious guild, not an easy task within a smaller community like the Italian one.
Even if i drop more, can’t upgrade it due to valor cap, and i’m several weeks behind everyone else with the chest.
It’s a systems tuned exclusively to people who play a patch since day 1 and run both raid and keys, with the specific intent to slow down progression artificially, screwing everyone else in the process.
Can only be described as “a very bad system”.
Are you really depended on Italian? We are a community from all europe, and my M+ group has Finnish, Dutch and Brits members.
Valor is a kinda OK system, since it allows you to upgrade more items along the season by increasing the cap. Which is a catch up system for alts or returning players. But the weekly vault is of course a timegated crap system…
Not for keys, but for serious raiding pretty much. Aside of the time difference (1hr doesn’t seem much between me and london, but it’s like going to bed this day or the next morning), I’ve tried voice com on pugs and with too many people shouting it’s complex to follow, especially when people have strong accents or barely speak english.
The problem with the valor cap is that if you spend valor on upgrading an item and the next reset you fill the same slot from the vault with a higher ilvl, you have lost those point and you can’t farm more of those to upgrade a different one, as you’re capped.
I’ve spent valor on my weapon, only to drop it 252 from the vault (the same weapon, because “options & choices”), and now i’m capped and even if i drop a shield or wrist, can’t upgrade them anymore until next week.
