Lets end this story by asking blizzard to create retail server with strict rules, which are more leaned towards TBC than modern WoW. I will personaly pay 1000 Euro transfer to this server if it is ever out without second thoght, without hesitation.
Than let Pipply and guys like him live their own utopia in stinky retail rainbow unicorn server. They will come to use once they realised how retail is useless experience compared to that.
you see how people like stengh and praetorin have no real agruments, jutzs stupid nitpicking
If you enjoy retail wow, then more power to you. I’m simply sharing what the sentiment is. This doesn’t mean that there aren’t people who enjoy retail. I know some of them are.
Doesn’t matter, he is great marketing for the game, whether you like him or not. He gets around 20-30k viewers on average, and those numbers skyrocket when new content drops. Losing him is a net loss for Retail.
Look, that’s fine. Hell, maybe I’d even try it. I enjoyed vanilla back in the day.
I just don’t like Classic. What you’re asking for is basically Classic+ and that might already be in the works.
Just be patient.
And most importantly: Don’t try to change the one thing we have into the 9th version of Classic.
You really can’t fathom that there’s people who like different things than you, can you??
It amazes me - and not in a good way.
And to be clear: I’m not claiming WoW doesn’t have issues. It’s not perfect.
But turning it into something I hate doesn’t fix ANYTHING for me. Quite the opposite.
Go on social media for a little bit. You will quickly find out how people feel about Retail WoW. What you fail to understand is: You need an active sub to post on these forums, so unless I’m mistaken, you won’t find the majority of people disliking WoW on these forums, because they quit already.
Pippy’s posts are barely getting any likes either, so not sure what you’re trying to say, at least the original post has 56, and Pippy has like 2-3 at most.
because all the poeple who hate aginst the curent wow are suyrly even palying the acual game 
One (like asmon) make a wave and some follow it in their idiocy and just sprial it (like some dumb tiktok trneds)
No, they quit because they don’t like the current wow. What are you trying to say?
people got easyl influendc and have no own oppinion and just follow the herd and jump onto thing they tnd, even it eman critizce a game the dont even play barily palyed.
and you see taht clearly on twitter or tiktok.
One streamer prome some literal shi.t and the dumb millenial/ gen A floowls and hype it artificial, that is the same with the “supposed” cristcism
Most players don’t post on social media.
So there’s that.
Oh the 0.001%? Those guys?
Couldn’t care less about them.
Because Classic fanbois are unable to just be happy with what they have.
And that’s the real sign that changing retail into Classic clone #9 isn’t the way… Because just like all the Classic versions before it; it’ll be abandoned before long.
Go ask for your own version, but stay away from retail. Because we don’t want your greedy never-satisfied-with-anything attitude ruining what we have.
That’s not true. I’m not easily influenced by anyone, my thoughts are my own. If multiple people share my thoughts, then great. If I was easily influenced, then I should have succumbed to you and Pippy, which I haven’t, so that kind of makes your argument fall apart.
lets say asmon woud promte something like…dubai choloate, his 30k community woth blindy folow and buy it and artificial hype it that moe people from outside get intreses or other treamer like sodapopin who jump on the tredn, promote it in his onw comm and so its spirals, even the end product is garbage but popel just blkindy floow the tren because a mass flow it or influencer/streamer a or b
Most people are sheeple. It’s a proven fact.
It’s herd behaviour. A deep rooted ‘need to belong with a group’.
Sure, some blindly follow what anyone says; these people exist on both sides of this argument. You have people defending Asmon, and you have people defending retail. They pretty much cancel each other out.
I think you’re strawmanning the Asmon argument though, I said multiple streamers. Why are you honing in on just him?
“Multiple streamers” is still just a handful of people.
I only watch lolcows so non lolcows are just “some guy” as far as I’m concerned. If some guy on the street stopped me and told me WoW sucked I wouldn’t just stop playing or think:
“If some unemployed guy with zero life skills is saying it, it must be true!”
By your logic, since Pippy told me retail wow is great, I should have succumbed to him, no?
No, it’s the opposite. I’m saying I wouldn’t do what they told me.
Neither am I; I don’t do what Pippy told me.
Did I do that?
I never claimed that it’s ‘great’. I claimed that I like it more than I liked WoW in the vanilla/tbc/wotlk era. I think it’s a better game overal than it was then.
But I’ve also said that it’s not perfect. There’s flaws. And I’d like to see those flaws fixed.
Point is: I NEVER said ‘WoW IS this or that’. I said ‘I THINK’ it’s this or this.
I kept it personal. Because it’s my opinion.
On the opposite side we have someone like Praetorian who’s claiming to share ‘facts’, while in fact it’s nothing more than opinions as well.
Sure but you’re citing streamers as a credible source.
They are basically losers who have a large audience. I mean Boogie is one of the main lolcows and he lied about having cancer to get money, I wouldn’t personally consider streamers credible. Especially since they are effectively just digital beggars.
It’s like a homeless man begging on the street telling me I’m smart and handsome, he just wants my money.
I didn’t say they are credible sources, I said it was a net loss for Retail wow to lose them. This is just marketing 101.