Such as beach underwear?
When does it become “too much” for you, if indeed it ever does?
Would you be on board with World of Warcraft selling TERA cosmetics?
I for one absolutely despise all of them but as usual, I’m in the minority here and my opinion can therefore be discarded, ignored and ridiculed.
WoW has beaches. Might as well have some clothes for it.
In RuneScape 3, they’re already looking at reducing MTX, even looking at creating worlds where they are not allowed.
You won’t find much sympathy here as people here live through the game and don’t see it as a seperate world. You’re going to take away their expressions.
Depends on what you consider immersion breaking.
Beach wear isn’t immersion breaking for me cause we have beaches so naturally people would designe cloth for the beach
Can’t tell me that Blood Elves wouldn’t try to out-fashion themselves even on beach wear.
And the goblins like it colorful and silly, so we got silly beach floats and such.
Whatever the deal is with sweatsuits/joggers, onesies, gladiator leg pieces and ‘vigilante masks’ … I don’t know.
Wearing beach themed stuff at the beach is great. But having a bikini transmog in a dungeon/raid as the Protection Warrior? Yeah, I’ll pass on that one.
Also, they can’t even do a real bikini without all that visual cluttering with the mini-sarong and the nets and the other stuff.
I disagree. I think Valkyr-esque chain mail bikini or tribal conan the barbarian armor looks really cool and fits warcraft’s theme well. I think wow doesn’t need to be as prude as it is at the moment.
I actually think that stuff like the beach wear is that much immersion breaking. It’s great to have that stuff for us Roleplayers who do enjoy having that kind of thing. They are a blessing.
Indeed, but this isn’t what is being discussed here. There’s no chain mail involved in these cosmetics.
On a barbarian type character, sure. But even then I wouldn’t want a bikini with little Murloc themed floaties. And a Protection Warrior is not a barbarian type character.
Yeah but where do we then draw the lines for what goes where?
The tank isn’t allowed to wear stylish stuff cause he needs to look tanky but the mage would be allowed cause he wears cloth anyway?
Can I only use my murloc custume while Halloween?
And does my beach mog goes away automatically when I leave the beach?
But there is a compromise.
Make it a player sided option. You can decide to not see the other players mogs.
That then only affects you and everyone is happy
Yes, I’m in the same boat as you generally on this, because I don’t like immersion-breaking mog at all, where we wear plastic stuff. Armor should always be in the spirit of warcraft. I just wanted to clarify that I like skimpy armor, that show skin, but it needs to have a vibe that fits to wow (For both body types), because someone was complaining about “bikini”-armor. With male chars I just prefer wearing that conan of barbarian style armor like Orc heritage armor, and for female chars I like wearing chain mail bikini valkyr type armor, but sadly wow doesn’t have many of them due to moral panic, or whatever.
In that case, you also support the introduction of TERA cosmetics such as a police car because “you can decide not to see it”, right?
For reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFXbBKZCVXI
That’s your take from it. Full plate is extremely stylish. I have a kind of BG3 type of approach. Camp clothes are just that - regular clothes. You can wear your murloc onesie or the bikini in town, or at the beach. But in actual combat situations I would prefer if transmogs were locked to actual armour type.
For personal tmog and mounts, it’s perfectly fine. It’s an MMO"RPG", and anything that players think are cool to add to their own character is perfectly fine.
You don’t like it, don’t wear it. Simple as that.
Otherwise it’s EXACTLY the same as you being mad about some house down the street from yours, not “matching YOUR house’s aesthetic”…
The game itself is another conversation all together though…
If all of a sudden we get stories in the game, where Thrall is dressed in beach wear, and going on a sunny vacation in a completely “non-orc like fashion”… THEN it’s a problem.
But player choice for THEIR player character? No not at all.
I disagree. You’re completely inconsistent.
If it’s not okay for Thrall, then it shouldn’t be okay for players.
In both cases, it harms how seriously you immerse yourself in the game’s universe.
I don’t like it.
But I do think Warcraft affords itself a little bit more freedom to explore some of the whacky and silly visuals and gameplay elements than many other games. Warcraft does have this slapstick kind of comedy to it, and a degree of a whimsical and lighthearted take on an otherwise overly serious Tolkien-esque fantasy world. And the creative freedom of Warcraft basically spans from traditional elemental magic associated with medieval knights and castles to steampunk and sci-fi with jetpacks and laser guns and ever-shifting contrasts of low-fantasy and high-fantasy and everything in-between.
Warcraft is a spectrum of many things and immersion can’t really be limited to only certain parts or aspects of it. You kind of have to take the silly and goofy with the serious and mature. Blizzard’s job is to get the mix and balance right, and there’s probably a discussion to be had about whether they manage that.
So while I don’t like it, I’m more upset about it over in Diablo land than I am here in Warcraft land.
I think building a pink or neon-green house in the middle of a mountain village for example or near an old city ruins the whole ambience, and there are good reasons it’s not allowed. Same goes for WoW. I don’t think we should have cosmetics like in call of duty. That’d certainly cause me to quit I think, because atmosphere and impression of the world is a very important thing for me and many others in wow. I’m already not happy with the new vibe of recent wow, but at least there is legacy content still.
I don’t find them immersion breaking.
When it becomes the norm.
Fallout 76 was super cool when everyone was running around as vault dwellers and raiders, wearing standard pattern power armour doing fallout stuff in a fallout world with the occasional tongue in cheek fallout humour moments.
Now it’s a giant mess of a kids birthday party with neon space ghosts, flying clowns, dragon power armour, ice skating bigfoot and ninja cowboys collecting halloween candy, fishing for lottery tickets and doing silly achievements for silly trinkets.
It reflects what the game became, a joke.