so to any of you nutjobs out there who consider healers to be your mains…how the hell do u put up with the sheer irritation from random ppl that my time as a noob healer have realized? overconfident tanks thinking that they can pull practically every mob in the dungeon and be fine, moronic dpser’s who mid-dungeon have decided that they want to change roles and be the tank instead.
Not only is healing a stressful role but its in all honesty the role that is barely thanked if ever. After leveling up my healer via dungeons it honestly feels like if I try healing anymore it’ll turn my hair grey long before it should.
So I guess how the hell do you guys who do arguably the most important albeit taken for granted role in dungeons/raids cope with it?
Yeah, alot of tanks/dps only tunnel on damage, and don’t put enough mental effort into mitigating damage, self-healing, etc. M+ is kinda like pvp with how you have to play (saving cooldowns for right moments, surviving damage, etc). I learnt that kinda late as a dps (I also didn’t even think about this stuff), so I think you just have to let them die, and tell them to use their defensives to help you, so they learn. If you go to higher keys, you will have better groups, and then you see, how it changes.
Most importantly: If you used your cooldowns, and someone dies still, never feel bad for it.
I do not like it at all.I did a Sanguine tonight with a tank pulling like that.When we finished i asked the group (tank had left) if they had fun with all that.And they replied that they did not.And we didnt even care to time +2 or +3.Just to time it.
All roles are important and they have some stress.Dps has to damage ,tank has to keep the aggro and selfheal.
I do not expect that ever.I know what i am doing so i see for myself.
in all honesty healing in WoW reminds me a lot of having your companion heal you in SWTOR (Star Wars MMO) as in all honesty companions healing you in that game you take for granted as its their only role they need to do and obviously no need to thank em as they’re not being controlled by an actual person. Healing in WoW people take being healed for granted and unlike in SWTOR, the healers are actual people busting their a**es to keep you alive.
I personally think tank is the more noticeable and responsible role.
Regardless, learn to know when its your fault and when its not. When its not brush it off. If it is, own it. People make mistakes and admitting it is the right move.
I see.No i do not think this way.It is my role to heal that is why i apply to a group.
But i do expect from the group not being rude and make me feel bad for playing with them.
Not only to me but for all in group.
healing/tanking
in the current iteration of Wow where tanks/heals arent really tanks/healers but just like dps with a 2nd secondary role with big CDs to deal with damage. As a person who is somewhat good currently 2.5k on my own tank/healer and aiming for 3k push once everyone is ready for the 20+ now a bad tank/dps who stand in aoe damage makes your life a living nightmare when healing most of the time is just topping people off and healing tanks/dps for mechanics for aoe damage or unavoidable stuff aka slime thingy in PF. You dont really feel like a healer at all in current wow unless people are playing very bad or are undergeared
I dont think its my fault when a group wipes at least. Especially if said groups tank has decided despite not being healed up to full hp yet to gotta go fast Sonic style and pull as many mobs as possible and surprise surprise, a tank whose not at full health when he starts pulling a tonne of mobs or start a boss fight…well take a wild guess what happens next. And guess upon where the group, particularly said tank decided was at fault…
Not a healer main over here but can give some feedback.
For context my experience in healing is only up to +20 mythics and the last mythic bosses. My experience in pvp is too limited to give any real advice.
So to start:
Low level healing (m+ 0-15, raids until heroic/early mythic) are not a good experience because of the people not really understanding basic concepts/mechanics. It is not uncommon to get clueless people that make your job almost not worth your time.
When you reach abit higher mythic+ level (15-20) you actually have a pretty high chance to get decent people that do their weeklies and provide a good healing experience. Most of the run you can focus on dps/ccing/utility and heal when unavoidable damage is dealt. You still might get trolls/bad players but that is the exception when you learn to distinguish groups/players.
Pushing m+ (m20+) is actually more of a challenge because some healing checks are introduced with you needing to think about using your cds (both healing and defensives). Also on that level it becomes abit more hectic because you cannot take it easy anymore (every empty global counts, be it healing,damage,utility).
In case you go into raiding it is quite abit more relaxed with fights being more mechanical, and healing becomes a problem solving activity with 5 healers instead of you being the only one. The higher you go, the less you get “blamed” for bad healing and more for not doing mechanics.
In case you reach a high mythic raiding level (NOT world first, talking about going for CE), a good healing rotation/numbers is considered a given (from you), and the challenge comes from doing some hard mechanics and following the CDs plan of your raid.
Generally speaking it might be daunting at first, but if you stick to it and get through the starting swamp, healing is one of the most rewarding roles. Believe me that a good healers are the most sought after players everywhere.
eh, dont really plan on healing on current raids or mythics (only be a healer on transmog runs of older raids etc) and most certainly have no intention of healing in PvP either. PvE healing is already so irritating. Most of my irritation comes from being put in the random dungeon groups full of people who are just…well I never noticed how many groups full of idiots LFG curses you with until I bit the bullet and stop doing the easy dps role and give healing a go.
Its a shame, I thought leveling up as a healer via dungeons would help me learn how to heal others quicker/rotations etc but its kinda hard to do that when it feels like a lot of the time people are unnecesarily making the dungeon harder than it should be.
If the sheer amount of people in LFG who lack common sense have taught me anything is that being a healer is essentially being the babysitter of the dungeon group.
except I’ll admit I never really noticed that stuff much whilst I was maining DPS until I decided to play the role which is generally the one ppl will blame for the wipe. Even the person who caused the wipe may end up blaming
Tag along at the back, not really doing much at all.
Less healing than the tank sometimes.
Slow them down, because everybody knows the dps are doing all the work.
What we actually do:
We’re the ones carrying peoples mistakes.
We’re the ones mitigating damage so that they don’t get oneshot.
We’re catching all the interrupts that they miss.
We’re dps’ing during down time, because the dps are slacking and need help.
We’re popping all the explosive orbs, so they can just tunnel damage.
We’re dispelling, even more so when dps stand in all the stuff they shouldn’t.
We’re the ones keeping the tank that doesn’t know how to mitigate alive.
Basically, we are very much underappreciated, but a good healer will 100% carry a bad group.
However, there comes a point when we can’t carry any more, and this is when you start to notice which dps/tank players know their stuff.
A group with tank/dps and healer that all know their stuff, will compliment each other, understand when each other need help, but you generally don’t find these groups below +20.
Running low keys is like dragging your face through a hawthorn bush with your eyes open.
Healing in pve is stressful? Just do some pvp and you will learn to love pve healing. If this doesnt help you, just push to higher keys, where ppl actually want to finish instead of trolling around. Doing 15+ is WAY easier than something like +5. Or there is another option. You are just too bad for the average standards and need to get better at healing. These tanks had to get the confidence from somewhere, so maybe they did fine with other healers.
It’s the same for tanks tbh, earlier this morning I decided to lvl a paladin Tank so I took myself into the first dungeon and one guy in the dungeon wanted to do the whole dungeon but the rest of the group wanted to skip to last boss which is what we did, for an hour after that this guy berated and griefed me through whispers, in the end I logged off and deleted the paladin… cba with people like that.
Yeah it doesn’t seem that hard and stressful at all. Tanking is waaaay harder, especially on fortified when you have to gather large amount of mobs and keep aggro+ survive.
Making my life easier by playing exclusively with players I know at least a little bit, and I know what to expect from them (and, by chance, they know what to expect from me).
That and the added benefit of being able to communicate on discord with guildmates/ community members.