Hey, thanks dude. This is new for me.
I will do this tonight
You could throttle how often you can log in and out from a single account. Really though, that wonât fix anything. A single hunter or shaman can look at all the black lotus spawns in the entire zone without moving from the flight path. In vanilla it wasnât even limited to a single zone, because the current sharding server architecture doesnât allow looking into another next zone, but it did in vanilla.
Black lotus spawns are simply a terrible mechanic, but I suppose weâre stuck with it. I personally wouldnât mind changing it to what they did in TBC and wrath, where fel/frost lotus was a random drop off other high level herbs. I doubt that will happen. Itâs a change that is hard to justify.
Chill my friend. I will keep it a secret i only share with my friends
It probably wonât help a lot, a level 35 char is not that long to level up.
The issue is we live in a time where literrally everyone has the ability to multibox. And placing a level 35+ on every spawn point is not very time consuming for someone who is willing to do that. Servers are HUGE. Every server might have at least one or two person who do this, and those persons are enough to basicly control the BL market forever.
Ye that random lotus spawn might be the solution but i see two.problems here. Firstly, the hardcore nochanges crew that actually controls the spawns now. Secondly, todayâs player mentality. Honestly, 90 percent of problema i read about on these forums are player mentality. Specificly this situation, how.many people were doing it in 2005 and how many are now? Same with pvp problems in p2⊠on what server in 2005 one faction conpletly pushed the other off the server, claiming they âwon the warâ!!! Wtf really? And there are countless of examples of players actually ruining this game with their behaviour.
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I donât see how camping nodes is an exploit. Anyone can do it. its part of the farming game.
If someone spends 24 hours a day sitting on herb spawns then why shouldnât they be able to have the herbs?
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There are not enough resources in the game so everyone can sit on one. It becomes a âwho has the better multiboxing optionsâ very quickly. And no one wants a game where everything is controlled by those people.
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Iâm not sure how this is supposed to work. Letâs say you have a bunch of level 1 ghost-spies at the potential spawn points. What then? You alt-tab between however many characters you have for 45-75 minutes, then pray your real character will get to the lotus before the rest of the farmers? As far as I could see, people are constantly rotating between spawn points even at 4 in the morning, a small scouting headstart may not be enough if your main character is out of position.
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Itâs a mutliboxing thing with 5-10 accounts. One of them has a lvl 60 to do the picking.
With less success (although still gamebreaking) a farmer can use one account and keep logging the level ones in succession. Depending how much space after (bank)alts will depend on their efficacy in griefing other farmers.
Yes but you have a main running around,let s say EPL⊠and you find black lotus on your ghost alt in Winterspring or Silothus⊠how can you be sure you re over there first?
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Min-maxing would work like this:
11 accounts.
1 account would have 4x lvl 60 - 1 in each zone.
10 accounts would have up to 4 level ones per account. One lvl 1 dead at a spawn in each of the 4 zones.
11 PCs.
The lvl 60 would be at some central spot waiting for a ghost to spot a spawn and then start running when it does.
In reality, 5-6 accounts and dominating a single zone is very profitable.
Who would do this? Rich kids that can afford multiple accounts. Guys that have won the trust of guildies and get to use their logins and a char slot late at nights. Gold sellers.
and why not wait with your current lvl 60 in each point and pick up when it comes there? Why it is better to scout with an account and go there another⊠you know probably someone take it while you ride there
Because there are multiple spawn locations. Letâs take EPL for example thereâs like 5 spawn locations (might not be exact, correct me if Iâm wrong) if they have a level 1 parked at each spawn location and they know the time the last Black lotus was picked then they know generally when itâs going to spawn they will then log those level 1s to see where its spawned then move their 60 to that location.
If you just parked your 60 at one spawn location and wait and it spawns elsewhere then youâll have to wait another 40 odd minutes for it to respawn and you wonât know when it was picked so you wonât have an accurate time of respawn to go by.
Essientially you canât compete if your just trying to farm BL on 1 level 60 because people using multiple accounts have eyes everywhere and will always know the time of the next respawn. You might get lucky occasionally but is it worth waiting 40+ minutes in 1 of the possible spawn locations and hope you hit the lottery? Probably not.
Because healbot is a forum troll who thinks in convoluted ways as to who could be oppressing them today.
For example todayâs thread is on how multiboxers are somehow ruining the black lotus market, when in reality itâs botters who are using terrain and no clipping editting of game files to spawn at given points and herb / mine while underground. Yes it is a thing⊠when it happened in vannilla GMâs started spawning nodes underground where nobody who wasnât editing game files could reach. If someone interacted with them. Boom⊠ban timeâŠ
Last weeks problem for healbot was how he couldnât lead his premade AVâs at his supposed 90% win rate anymore and how horde has now got a 85% win rate and that was unfair and needs to be fixed without realizing the hypocrisy of his situation.
All in all⊠healbot is an idiot child with a god complex. But they canât accept the world doesnât run the way they want it so they lash out. Poor healbot.
In a side note, this is bad bad bait. People shouldnât be falling for it.
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Apperently one of my guildies said, that the respawn timer is an hour. So you basicly loot one, set a timer for an hour, then loot again. Not sure if this works, but if yes, itâd be horrible.
if u loot one, u know exactly the timer for next spawn, that is true. u just have to get the first one and then u can lock down a region for hours, even with a single account
Thatâs horrible, because it makes it super easy to control a servers market
What do you want done? Itâs working as intended.
Can you fk right off with your custom content changes already?
If anything, the herb/vein spawnrates should be adjusted to suit the increased server capacity.
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That is what is currently happening. Supply and demand - thereâs a lot of people who need BL and only 1 spawning in each zone every hour which means they can charge whatever they want and thereâs not much you can do other than grumble, bend over and pay what they ask.
Its not so much a problem currently as you donât need flasks for BWL but when Naxx is released it will become a major problem. One of the issues is that servers are now much bigger so you have 3-4 times the amount of people on 1 server than you had in Vanilla and not enough BL to go around.
I would advise anyone who is planning on doing Naxx to start buying up any and all BL that you can now because if Blizzard decide not to intervene then youâll not find any on the AH when the patch is rolled out and if you do then expect to pay a lot more than you are currently.
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