Did you not notice the way he didn’t deny he tried to add me to battletag and avoided it ? and you both call me troll even when I have said in this thread that faction imbalance is a thing but that KR is not horde biased I think you too need to learn to read and he really does not want me going into detail about things so I suggest before you slag me off you find out all the facts .
Only negative people around here is you and him reeeeeeee’ing about horde bias at every chance you get making the alliance look like whiners .
And ive told you iam a she enough times please be more mindful with the he/she comments thanks .
Show me were i said there isn’t a faction imbalance ? show me were i said not to work on it ? show me were i didn’t say alliance were bad at all things ?
Its you lot being so negative and its an awful mindset to have but sure call me a troll because you don’t like my views …………you troll
But the ability to blacklist BGs went away in BfA, did it not? The shift to more normal w/l happened way before that feature went away.
I remember the shift happening before blacklist went away specifically because my hunter was bugged for years, I could not blacklist 2 BGs, but at some point AV had normalized to the point where I could queue for BGs again on my hunter and not only get guaranteed loss AVs or IoCs whenever I dared queue on my hunter with only 1 of them blacklisted.
And when it comes to not having an ‘out’ as Alliance, I agree!
I think merc is unfair and should be balanced to both sides!
The always shorter queue to alliance further encourages the behaviour that makes them lose.
You’re not motivated to win if you can just get in with a 3min queue and then afk for 20 or so.
You can win In AV as Alliance. The problem is you negative type players that I see on the forums have all infected the groups now. The groups are full of people who just want to afk and get it over and done with as soon as possible. It’s all, ‘there is no point’, ‘Horde just win’, ‘why bother’ etc. There is no team work and no desire to win in most of the groups.
It was much easier at the start to get people to try. Now all the Alliance care about is losing and getting to queue again.
I’m am so disappointed with the community at this point. And you wonder why no one wants to play Alliance.
Now the BG starts, loads of negative talk, the mages sabotaging the groups with portals, removing part of the team. The gate opens, and some want to go in the base to get on the roof and glitsch through the back of the base to hide the entire BG, you get the ones who just want to do the quests or live in the mines, then a proportion want to go to Korrak, which is an instant loss because time is off the essence for Alliance. You need to get to IB tower and g/y and cap. Enough people need to stay to guarantee that cap, most of the time people run off. They break cc on the commanders or other elite mobs. They don’t secure graveyards and don’t call incomings. If you call an inc usually no one comes to help. It’s like trying to herd cats. Rogues and Druids can stealth into the Horde base and take towers and anyone left in our base needs to keep capping our towers back from their stealthers but so often they don’t.
The best games I’ve had as Alliance have been before this rot set in and we went and took our towers, worked our way down the map, took the base and started on the boss. Even if they beat us to the boss kill, it’s been close and a good match. Those people, those players that try, deserve much much better than the mentality they are getting from you negative players.
So every one of you that is a proud Alliance player who doesn’t roll over who fights and tries and gets on with the actual Korrak BG. I salute you!
But the transition has gone from Horde losing AV to Horde contesting AV in that time-span.
You can scratch that up to attitude or anything you want.
My point is just that after that, when the Horde pro players started getting into those AVs, the Horde didn’t just contest it anymore. They owned it. They still do today.
In Korrak’s Revenge the Alliance didn’t lost initially because they had an attitude problem. They lost because the quality of their players was weaker than the quality of the Horde players. And then the attitude problems arose, because what are you supposed to do against a superior force?! Despair, despair, despair!
The Horde always has the comfort of knowing that whenever they enter AV, they have everything they need to win.
The Alliance has the despair of knowing that they don’t.
Do you not find that disrespectful or maybe that’s the wrong word to use to say that about all Alliance players being weaker then horde or maybe i read it wrong if so i apologise but there is some really good pve/pvp players still left on alliance and take heart the likes of Method /Scrubbusters and others all started with blue blood in there vains .
Yes i know number wise is shocking for us but please stop making us out to be so bad at everything when it simply is not true .
Like i said maybe i miss understood your post and if so i am sorry just saddens me to see such heart felt despair from you Jito when you are usually so positive .
This is what i have been trying to explain these last few days. Now you understand how it is. It is bad. But don’t blame it on those who actually care and come to forums to talk about the problem. That’s pretty harsh. Most people here writing about it have heart in it, they want to find fix for the problem and i doubt any of these people are afking or not trying. These are people who ARE wanting to win and are trying, but face the mess that it is now. Inviduals, not some “alliance” mass. They are people who, just like you, are super frustrated of how it is now in games. They are no different than you writing here now about how bad it is, and you are part of the group very same way they are when ever you queue on alliance side, whether it is as alliance alt or mercenary. They are not resposible about it any more than you are. In fact, we all, who write here, are the ones suffering from it and we should not throw blame around to eachothers but support instead.
All you did here is getting into the personal attacks when someone stated something about which you don’t have any arguments against. I never have done anything bad to you and don’t know what’s your issue, if I did than just show me the evidence for that but I know how you don’t have that.
Your first reply on my post here in which I stated the facts about the current faction imbalance was how you didn’t bothered to even read it, I just stated there the statistic which anyone else could do to.
And I just proved how you were wrong with both of the things which you stated about how the alliance is having better players in the m+ content and in the PvP to.
Besides in this thread the people which are pointing on the current faction imbalance you portrayed as the negative ones and unreasonable. The fact remains how all this number of the threads about the bad state of the game because of the faction imbalance would not now appear if everything would be perfectly right with the game but its not.
Also you called here the people which are saying how one of the ways to solve the issues with the game is to enable cross-faction PvE content the hypocrites but in the Ishayu thread about the faction imbalance you stated yourself how there is no reason to continue with the war between the factions in the future and you liked all of the comments from the people which said how they would like to see that option of the cross-faction play included. There is also the fact that you said here how you are against removal of the mercenary mode which was one of the points of the Ishayu thread because its one of the possible solutions how to entice more PvP players to play on the alliance faction which is in a need of more experienced people to get the things more balanced out but in the Ishayu thread you did agree with his comment about that :
You also liked there the Danellos post which I also posted here before in which he pointed out the ignorance of the Blizzard in regards to the faction imbalance over the years and what did the giving of the better racials did to the game, and what is that if not the bias or favoritism of the certain faction in the game…
But you can keep going with the same tactic of shooting the messengers and ignoring or spinning the message I don’t care anymore just like I don’t care about you, because there is enough of people in - the EU community, on the US one and the reddit which can dig the truth out about how the currently things look like in the game and how bad the current imbalance is.
You don’t think that the negative attitude some bring about the Alliance rubs off on others? At no point have I blamed the people who actually want to take part in the BGs. But that same attitude that some express on the forums is the same problem that has infected the Korrak event.
Which is exactly why I have saluted every single person who tried who played, who actually cared and played their hearts out. Those people I have been playing along side for the last week or two. The ones who care, who want to win.
I have SAID IF YOU READ MY POSTS that there is faction imbalance and it needs to be sorted .
If you didn’t care why did you try to add me to battletag then ?
Iam not ingoreing anything at all but all your post was nothing to do with KR at all just a personal attack on me just like you constantly dig at Puny.
Do you honestly want to carry this on in public ?
You constantly dig at me and call me troll in post just because you don’t like my views .
You ask for PVE merc mode yet you want PVP merc mode removed harming both sides can you not see how much of a hypocrit that is ?
Also realm/server mergeing is nothing to do with my views on faction balance at all .
They are two different things .
I swear you read only what you want to read you carry on with this harrasement on the forums i will not have any of it .
If you want me to post screenshots of things then i will but it will only end up in a perm ban for me and a ban for you .
Stop picking on me and others iam sick and tired of it and you are pushing my wrong buttons atm as i lost a friend due to stomache cancer on Friday so go ahead keep on pushing you wount like the answers.
I’m just saying that when the queue system grabs 40 random Horde players and 40 random Alliance players, then the quality of players and characters on the Horde team is more often than not of a higher quality (skill, experience, gear, etc.) than the quality of players and character on the Alliance side.
That’s a normal statistical outcome of the fact that the Horde has the better players and characters in all fields of the game, be it raiding, mythic+, arenas, battlegrounds, and so on. Liära outlined that rather well, I think.
So it’s not really disrespectful, it’s just a statement of fact. The Horde has the best players, so their AV teams are also going to consist of better players than the Alliance’s AV teams.
And ironically those two guilds now play for the Horde.
And who would you name as really good PvE/PvP players that are still left on the Alliance? Who do you know of?
Maybe, but I don’t appreciate Blizzard’s inaction in regards to faction imbalance, and I don’t appreciate that they design events and features as if faction imbalance isn’t a thing. Again and again they introduce something new where the Alliance just gets crushed by the Horde, because the developers hadn’t considered the fact that faction imbalance is a thing.
And I’m tired of being on the recieving end of this kind of lackluster game design. And I think it’s fair to be upset about it and complain and express dissatisfaction. And so I will. I think I have a pretty good signal/noise ratio on the forum anyway, so I hopefully don’t come across as a REEEEEEEEEEEEEE guy. I pick my battles. And this is one of them.
I so agree on that and also the lack of news of server connections a month on from the last part Ion said at Blizzcon.
No you are not a REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE person far from it i know i come across a heated at you at times but i still respect your views .
Its people in this thread who go out of there way to make it person just like 3 posters have to me .Iam one step away from a perm forum ban anyways so i will go out if i have to fighting my corner .
Faction imbalance is wrong and needs to be sorted my last comment on it .
But Horde Bias in every thread needs to calm down its turning the forum into a negative cess pool .
Okay, so first of all, I think that “being a lower quality player” is a lot to do with state of mind, which is just a fancy word for attitude. Not a defeatist attitude per se, but an attitude nonetheless.
Maybe that’s where the disconnect is happening?
Because like I’ve said before, the whole imbalance thing about factions’ raw numbers and their affinity to certain types of content is something I agree with, think is an issue that should concern Blizzard enough to try and think for a solution, sooner rather than later.
Second, Alliance wasn’t losing this badly or this much during the first days of the event at all, when both sides had roughly the equal amount of freeloaders picking up crates in the mines and the “afk on roof and announce loss before gate opens” meta hadn’t settled in so firmly.
AV and Korrak really isn’t quantum mechanics, fighting is mostly knowing how to AoE and pick off targets who start flopping or get gripped, I don’t have such a low opinion on average Alliance to think they can’t do that, or deduce the best route to IBgy/TP/FWgy, which is literally hugging the left side at mid.
I don’t know.
Historically, to me, the forum tends to produce the most results when it produces the most text. Loudness matters.
And I don’t think the Horde bias discussions consists of the same few guys who just spam the forum constantly. It’s a hot topic of discussion because a lot of people desire to express their thoughts on it. It impacts them.
And for myself personally, I certainly think there’s a lot of Horde bias in WoW, beyond faction imbalance alone. And I think it’s fair to complain and voice criticism to Blizzard about that as well. If that’s what some Alliance players feel, then that’s their feedback, and they should voice it.
Every Voice Matters.
I know and i agree and i get the feeling your angry at me so all im going to say is there is a way and means of getting your views across is a positive constructive manner with out people bickering and reeeeeing im sorry if ive offended you but we share the same views in a round about sort of way .
Im biteing because of 2 reasons ive explained death of a loved one and because 3 people in this thread (not you) have gone out of there way to harass me and my views .
So either you accept my apology or you don’t either way we both want same thing .
Most people I’m sure in this thread didn’t took your posts on that way if they did read it from the start.
I will keep pointing on the things which are not right in the game, and I have right to do so, just like I can point on something about which I disagree with, and all of the things I pointed do have everything to do and not just with the KR but with the game as a whole.
Because you are, I’m not afraid of you, I will call you that because I can’t see you differently at all. Besides you don’t have any evidence as I mentioned about anything bad I have done to anyone in the game or on the forums.
The solutions to balance the game are not the easy ones, and can be painful but better to fix the imbalance than keep the current status quo in the game which we currently have which is harmful for the players and the game in the long run.
You did agree with majority of Ishayu points, and you did agree with both of the things you mentioned here, people can check that and see. I said how the removal of the mercenary PvP mode in the current situation when we are not getting it for the PvE is one of the solutions how to fix things.
Please do post a screenshoot in which I oh so badly insulted you or anyone else…
I’m sorry to hear about your friend, but you have to realize how I’m not the one here which started with the personal attack you did…
I don’t think any posts on these Korrak threads are reason for alliance negative attitude, i think posts are result of it (and what is has brought). While i disagree with some posts and agree with some, they are all made with good intention to make situation better. I don’t think afk’ers come here to complain things and find solution for afk problem nor i think the actual negative players come here to just spread negativity. It is all people who care and try their hardest in games. Ofc it sounds negative because they are complaining, but it is not the same negativity that you face on AV.
I am one of those people. I am that dot on the map that goes alone to still try attack when Dun Baldar is on chaos and people yell the loss. I am that dot that wiggles around zerg and ninja’s objects. I am that player who is posting timers, selectively the ones that need immediate attention. I am that players who comes when you call help. I am that lock that made all those gateways from ground to bunkers/towers so superfast access to all for defend/attack. I am that druid who went alone to take both fw towers and gy (and got yelled when killed by several enemy players and npcs on the end for “not keeping them” lol). I am that player who ports back to decap those bunkers when 10 questers in base are not doing it (and then go back to attack). I am that shaman that is running from tower to tower, defending flags and healing everyone who is there. I am that player who, when people say “let them win” says “We don’t give anything for free”. I am that players who lightens the moods with little jokes and who never skips telling “gj at X” when people cap or defend something. And still i can come here on forum and talk about things that are not right and need fixing and that talk doesn’t make me or anyone else who does the same to be any reason or root for negativity in KR. I actually think, despite talking about problems here, that i am one of the few players there who spread positivity in KR games. It just is not enough today anymore.
You went out of you way mocking and belittling every point i made in your reply to me .You gave me a whole easy of why im so called wrong even though i have said many times in this thread and others imbalance needs to be sorted why cant you admit that .
Iam not going to post the screenshot but you can send me another battlenet request and i will link it if you like .Iam not afraid of you either and i will not get banned just because of you and mind games .
I’m not angry at anyone. I just tend to write in a way that reflects the conviction of my argument. And in this case I think my perspective on faction imbalance and Horde bias is in the right, and so I’ll ruthlessly debunk any falsehoods (as I see it) that attempt to diminish the severity of the issue, the nature of it, or who’s fault it is.
There are some arguments that get brought up that trigger me a bit in regards to this “discussion”:
“Well Horde was losing 15 years ago when they were outnumbered in Vanilla. So this is just tit for tat!” “Alliance just needs to L2Play. That’s all it is.” “More Alliance QQ and Horde bias REEEEEEE.” “How’s it Horde bias when important Horde characters always die? Explain that!” “Maybe you need to look at RP Servers before you talk about Horde dominance…”
And so on. Those kind of arguments are stupid, and they trigger me a bit.
Then do so please because iam far from either you just will not admit you harass people and dislike there views and make it personal .
Wouldn’t be surprised if a dk or a shammy enters the thread soon to attack me aswell .
