quite frankly it’s to late now for a fix.
No alliance player will return to AV if they don’t absolutely have to.
And the usual AV players will keep doing what they do:
the lowlevels&rep farmers will keep trying to cause a deffturtle as hard as they can
and the semi afks will well stay afk.
and noone else will play it besides those 2 groups even after the “fix” because the alliance AV just has such a horrid reputation now amongst the players.
That does seem likely, but it’s hard to fully predict it in regards to that. But yes, it’s truly a sad state of affairs. One which could’ve been prevented by Blizzard taking swifter action against the premade exploits before it had shaped its own social norms as well as the server populations (for example, the WPvP chaos before the early release of AV and WSG wouldn’t have been as spread out on the maps and at such a high frequency if the server population limits had been true to Vanilla).
If the server populations had been better managed, you’d have seen people more spread out and more evenly divided between factions if they had put in some proactive measures before players made their characters at the start of Classic.
dunno I don’t mind having a designated place to make atleast a little bit of honor while cooking 
That is true ^^ but not much to do about it then is it and yeah Alliance doesnt benefit from the hordes turtle in terms of honor per hour so they cba with it.
Do you understand what sampling is? Do you understand how sampling size works with different distributions? Do you understand that a binomial distribution is the easiest to estimate true p with?
Go look for a job. I’ve read enough of your nonsense in other posts to know that you have no idea what you’re talking about and are basically just googling and wikipediaing knowledge on the go.
Do you understand that your way of thinking is in itself not applicable to this? No? Ok great, glad we got that cleared up.
Which you have not shown or talked about or described in any way except for a faulty notion that just because 40 people think differently they do not still strive for the same goal i.e. winning.
exactly.
its not even hard to figure out. check the win/loss rate of the balanced maps and it becomes pretty clear.
if skill, mindset, gear, Qtimes, the price of rice in china or anything else was the cause of the AV mess then we would see comparable results in AB and WSG aswell.
we don’t. and most likely never will.
You forgot to add rankers prefer wsg/ab for honour per hour which is the base foundation of the pvp system in classic :p. Then it starts becomming quite alot of things hehe
Oh look, another misconception and oversimplification by you. Not everyone on the Alliance side is aiming for wins, you know? And that aim to win isn’t static either, wills can be broken, which due to the endemic mindset problems taking root so long ago it breaks faster faster in some more than others. Horde is noticeably more cocky in regards to this.
Unlike the Horde who are all a hive mind, static and uniform in their goals and completely unbreakable, right? All these armchair psychologists are getting a bit boring. Arena ratings that will keep these massive egoes in check can’t come soon enough.
It’s not oversimplification. It is addressing the problem at the source.
Everything else is secondary, even if it is there.
Google diffusion of responsibility if you’ve never heard of it before.
But ok, to help you out, I’ll explain the gist of it:
Basically, when in a group context, there’s a phenomenon that occurs where something like an emergency isn’t perceived as an emergency or that the individual doesn’t do anything about it or that the individual doesn’t see it as a problem they either need or should do anything about, because the individual responsibility isn’t felt as much as when in more personal circumstances.
It’s kind of similar to herd behavior in that way.
So the reason why this matters for this whole AV debacle, is because people don’t see it as a personal responsibility, or that the individual mindset, social norms or group efforts can affect it. The responsibility is instead placed on something outside of their control, because it’s a quirk of the human mind to do so in these large contexts.
“It’s not something I can do anything about” or “It’s not my responsibility”, and when this mindset spreads so far that it becomes a social norm and coupled with short queue times, what do you think an Alliance player is more likely to do in AV, if they even decide to queue up for it to begin with?
Simply put, it diffuses the person’s perceived responsibility.
I will, thank you! <3
Thank you for clearing that up for me 
I am very grateful
XOXO
How about you queue AB and leave the ppl who actually want to PVP alone?
Imagine having a foot race, but one participant gets to start 100 meters in front of the others. That is the current AV situation.
Anyone who can’t see this is either arguing in bad faith, or just plain stupid.
Beware, why are you posting from some lvl 110 nobody cares about. Why don’t you just post from your classic character?
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