But…?
I’m confused. 
Hi
I was talking about you in particular.
I was just not going to mention your name because you don’t need to be dragged for filth again.
Yes, that’s what confuses me. I am not looking for trouble and I haven’t mentioned you in this thread. I was making general observations as to how I felt the forum could be improved as per the thread’s query.
I do not exclusively post in this section of the forum. I post elsewhere, too, so my suggestions were mostly made with the likes of General Discussion and Lore/Story in mind.
It has also been over a decade since I last actively posted or even played the game actively, so there are many things I am unaware of, such as the fact that someone cannot post on General Discussion without an active subscription.
Again, I’m not here to drag you again. We’ve been there and done that and I have seen you’ve not made a donkey out of yourself since.
Its just incredibly funny that you are just in a long line of people who have accused me of not being subbed when I am.
Its just also extra funny because you do need a sub to post on any other forum that isn’t the help forums or the realm forums.
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Ah! That’s where the wires are being crossed, then. I wasn’t accusing anyone here of that - I was under the impression that a lot of the more bitter posters over in General Discussion complaining about the state of the game were unsubscribed and just taking potshots from the sidelines.
Now, however, I know that isn’t the case. 
I tend to assume that if people are posting on the Argent Dawn forum then they are indeed playing the game as role-play is generally a long term commitment.
I mean some of them may be engaging in the either sadder act of paying to use the forum.
But they are paying.
EDIT: I’m not one of them, as I have said and as people have seen, I literally have posted various characters wearing/using whatever’s new on the trading post.
Cro here is literally in the trading post stuff from last month.
Why do people find it strange that people like to complain and debate things in a public setting?
The entire “if you don’t like something just ignore it lol” argument is telling of how differently people approach life, I think. Some folk are content to avoid problems and confrontation and sequester themselves into merry little boxes while other people like to grab the problem by the cog. And break that cog.
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It would cut down on a lot of the noise.
If the containment thread is not containing its contents then it’s not working. This ‘look away, it doesn’t matter’ laissez-faire approach yet at the same time being highly invested when things are pointed out is as the gnome above says
As Sinbane mentioned above, bring back downvotes. Usually the people who were blasted into oblivion were notorious server troublemakers and when it was obvious the big bad goosesteppers were doing it, they also ended up getting blasted with a 1000+ downvotes on that legendary morning some eight or nine years ago now.
Also bring back human moderators. Moderation by ChatGPT is absurd.
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I’ve yet to see general chatter anywhere else though. Every topic tends to stay on topic otherwise?
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Tbh the only time I see the Thread TM branch out is when obviously offensive topics designed to offend and egg on appear or when, such as happened here, it’s randomly brought up in some bizzare snipe and run moment.
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While this is all true, I do miss the downvotes. They were somewhat hilarious.
T: the man who got 197 downvotes back in the old forums.
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Uh-huh, right, then I’d appreciate some statistics on the amount of people posting who are unsubscribed.
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As a regular Peeve poster (I have no one else to talk to in my life) I can confirm that I am subscribed.
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When the downvote was a feature, that is not true: you could not see the names of those downvoting you (just as you could not see the likes).
I don’t really see downvoting adding anything much meaningful to the discussions on the forums except them being used for the “lols” or to discredit a player: seeing how easily it will get abused, I doubt it would be enjoyable.
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I think its less that people don’t want to see things debated in public over that if it’s even a debate at all?
Having a handful people who constantly switches alts say “This thread that people just casually talk in is the main source of the world’s problem” or talking vitriolically about people who post there with snide remarks is hardly what I would say a debate. It’s just petty hatred based on personal grudges.
Especially when it alot of times come from people with a very bad public history.
I do think it says more about you than it does anyone else that you label it as a “containment” which shows a pretty negative bias.
Literally the only other time I can recall it ever happening was the Negativity Thread. And it only occurred because one certain poster made it their daily job to directly trashtalk people by name and threw a complete rage-fueled meltdown into personal attacks the second someone said “that’s not cool”.
It’s well documented already that the vocal complaints are out of spite. Usually over drama they themselves directly caused.
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A lot of the suggestions are impossible, since Blizzard isn’t going to improve moderation, bring back dislikes or alter the trust system for obvious reasons - the current system maximises engagement, or so Blizzard believes.
Instead, I’ll suggest something that is more possible, albeit unlikely to ever happen. I’d like the community to accept that this forum is… well, a forum.
It’s a place for discussion and debate, for the exchange of views, ideas and beliefs. As long as the terms, conditions and rules imposed by Blizzard aren’t broken, people are allowed to say whatever they want and express disapproval of whatever they want. No one here has the power to police anyone else and we’re all free to talk about whatever we wish.
So, I end up a little puzzled when some people get disparaged for the sin of talking about stuff on a forum (typically framed as distaste for the Pet Peeves thread and “Pet Peevers”) and when some people treat any criticism of their views and their stance as an attempt to silence them or inhibit their freedom of speech. It’s also a little odd when people frame particular views as being a part of some large psyop, as some sort of intellectual dishonesty or manipulation, or some kind of demoralisation campaign.
It just feels like some people take this forum a bit too personally. People talking about their cats on a daily basis isn’t something that needs to be gate-kept, someone disagreeing with your views on LGBTQIA+ matters doesn’t mean that they’re trying to silence you and shut down all dissent, and a comment about Warcraft lore or the state of RP on Argent Dawn isn’t a cunning attempt to remake the server in the commentor’s own image or to demoralise you into abandoning WoW RP.
It’s a forum. Some people are going to agree with you and like what you post, other people are going to disagree with you and dislike what you post. So I’d just like to promote a more detached approach to posting here, and how we view the posts of others. We’re all just people talking about things on a WoW forum on the internet, no need to make it more complicated than that.
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Inquired about the pinned topics via Customer Service explaining why a couple of them are redundant, and at least they’ve now been reviewed & cleaned up.
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Great initiative! Especially with several of them being years out of date at this point.
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So as to not repeat the other points of improvement others have brought up (especially a big fan of Wraithwood’s poll suggestion), I would add simply this:
Bring back highlighted posts. Highly upvoted (and therefore usually the ones people considered helpful, say +10/15/20?) stood out as somewhat important, and they helped people navigate a forum thread while skimming over for the important bits. Many a times I’ve seen Acrona drop an incredibly helpful post, garner dozens of upvotes, and then get drowned out in the spam.
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You daughter of an elf actually did it.
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