https://drustvar.com/tbc-leaderboard/2v2?region=eu
check the amount of warlocks compared to rogues.
Yes warlock is really strong as sl but rogue is a diffrent level right now.
THe cat that rogues sh*t on locks in 1v1 with ease, especially as undead.
im not saying sl lock is weak by any means, but setting them on rogue level in this gearprogression point is just not accurate.
So we banning hunters flare too? That can be active 100% of the time. Sounds way Overpowered.
this is something completly diffrent. not compareable
Seeing someone stealthed? Sounds the same to me.
Nope.
20 seconds of avoiding opening combat or aggressive sap of any human none rogue.
Also you can replace it with warlock paranoia buff or catâs eye potion.
That is barely used even among Horde PvPers. Letâs instead compare it to WotF, shall we? Self Cleanse during control (aka Ice block or Bubble partially) but Immunity part has no analogues or counterplays except for stuns.
WotF should be modified in a way that it doesnât provide immunity and a guarantee win against a class with fear.
Týrss makes good point.
Yes.
Sod off you troll!
Wotf gives you a chance to fight? What? It gives xou immunity to warlocks only cc besides death coil, its broken when playing 2x dps against amy lock combo and ofc ud lock cant ever lose in mirror against non ud lock, its broken as hell stop crying.
Its not OP. I playing hunter/holy in 2v2 and it looks useless.
Iâd rather have wotf over perception any time of the day.
I did try explaining. People dont want to believe/trust.
Im honestly not that pissy about any racial atm. I lose far more games to rng than all the racials combined.
So if we are going to complain and ask for changes (Which again will NEVER happen) might as well ask for that to be removed first.
And again, the people arguing âThis is why Perception was removed in Wotlkâ have clearly never played against Every Man for Himself xD
WoTF gives you immunity to fear for 5 seconds, after that you can be feared again. Human rogue vs. any other rogue gives the human almost guaranteed opening to a stun lock, which gives the human rogue an advantage that is very difficult to outmaneuver without having significant advantage on gear. You cannot trinket out of the stuns because the rogue will blind you and start over this process. Human rogue vs. any other rogue is like a game of Knots and Crosses, the human cannot lose unless he makes big mistakes or gets very unlucky.
What comes to UD warlock vs. other warlocks. WoTF does not grant immunity to counter play. You can still cast spells, you are not unable to perform actions like a rogue is in a stun lock. WoTF does not guarantee a win for your team when popped against another warlock.
anyway, it works only in few situations, its not OP.
imagine saying this
Only a 5s immunity, when they can fear you litetally for free for 9s, but thats not advantage at all. Also, free trinket every 2 min is very broken, with immunity on top of that, and if you dont think that then you are insane.
And 5s immunity, against ud rogue, with vanish and cloak, it takes 4 globals to actually fear them, with half duration because you can use wotf while feared and still get immunity, i dont even cou t trinket into it, with trinket you need5 globals for 2s fear, yeah man, not free win at all.
dont try to argue, this guy is just lost.
Now you are adding other abilities to the equation to make your silly argument more plausible. Fearsome UD pops WoTF â Deathcoil â run â Win. End of debate, there is counter play to WoTF.
Yeah, you didnt use other spells in your rogue argument did you? Stop being hypocrite.
Oh yeah, let me just burn my most precious cd, which i need for every killing comb just to counter this useless racial, genius, truly genius /s
m8, its not a duel xD
In Arena this is never how it works. How come ? Well after the coil you are still immune to fear, and many classes can âchargeâ back into you right away. And all that you did was stop 2sec of dmg and now dont have a big cdâŚ
Yes, if you run the same way. Be smart, stay in the starting zone for the first 30sec, MOST people never check there. After that go out. Does not work always, but works often enough that it negates most low lvl Perception users.
Its a busted racial, but not nearly as much as you think.
play the most broken class in tbc and cry about a little racial
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