Hunters need entire Rune Rework, not just buffs

True, but maybe not with the recent Living Flame nerf

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I would love a dev blog or a vod in Gnomeregan where a Hunter main dev show off how and why these runes are useful and work well

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seriously this post needs bumping daily

So I bump and I demand changes to devs!

keep bumping and keep this at the top … ranged hunter changes need to happen

I dunno man. The more you look at balance and the class designs they’ve decided to go with the more I feel like the Devs are underperforming.
It’s that whole argument of “wait till next phase everything will be different” but why? Why is ranged hunter so badly designed Vs melee. It’s hardly rocket science is it. And it’s not like they’ve cared too much about PvP balance.

They probably have limited tools to change things without breaking another part of the game. Which for me doesn’t bode massively well. There is pretty massive flaws with classes and specs all over the shop. Ranged hunter. Warrior tanks. Feral DPS. Shaman healer. Frost mage. Rogue DPS (and the fact they have a 40 energy mutilate that all rogues love and everyone else hates.

And if you look at the forums there is clearly a ton of people who are looking at this as a whole and being like… This isn’t all sitting quite right.

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When it comes to the disparity in DPS I keep thinking about all the pieces of gear that got spell power on it for Phase 2 and how AFAIK none got feral AP, normal AP or RAP. Maybe the solution to that is very simple. Overhaul some dungeon and raid pieces to give more (R/F)AP.

I doubt the runes are the problem when it comes to DPS disparity.
Except melee hunter of course, it was always gonna be bonkers.
I knew that reading the datamined Melee Specialization rune in late P1.

Warlocks are critting chaos bolts for over 4.7k in raids and runes aren’t the problem with balance? 4.7k crits at level 40… Come on how can you not say that runes are way overtuned.
I wouldn’t be surprised if destro lock at the top is performing about as well as warlocks were in P1 of TBC.

I meant with physical classes :V

Obviously a bunch of the magic runes are overtuned.

(personally I think that the whole SoD idea of “everyone is overpowered” is silly and is not going to work the further in we go and so I’m in favor of scaling everyone else down to Hunter levels and then downtuning the raid instead. Burst damage is cray cray)

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Also, I edited the OP with some alterations as I wasn’t satisfied with it.

Well if you would had played and actually followed the dps rankings you would had known that Hunters were top first 2-3 weeks then warriors couse of deep wounds!

Rogue were top 3, but never nr 1 over A period of time. Now we are at 9

I’m sure whatever you had to say was very insightful.

Daily bump for the cause.

The increase from 60 to 75 % weapons damage on steady shot is bad joke , a troll.

If you made it not clipping autoshot and increased to 75 , maybe we could talk. It wouldn’t solve the issue , but it would be a good start.

Give us a proc like the instant pyro last mages have , but with aimed shot. It would be very easy to implement in game.

Create a certain % proc chance (balance need to be respected, could be 33% ) on steady shot that gives a 15 sec buff that reduce aimed shot cast by 50 % , stackable 2 times , on a steady shot that doesn’t clip auto shot. And you have it , a proper hunter MM psec that could do reasonable damage and be fun to play. Since steady shot is a 2 sec hardcast it would not impact pvp that much. Not more than giving instant pyroblast after 2 crits for mages.

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All melee have dual weapon damage increased, they could have done the same with an unclippable Steady Shot…

Keep it up boys! we need to bring this to Devs attention.

I am already working on my spell power MM hunter gear! In the meantime I finished my shaman and I need to say thats some fun class to play…

how so beyond breaking the DPS meter in late phases of PvE this class has nothing

Do you play warrior ?

eii bois wdym they gave us 2 useless “buffs” in a row we should be celebrating since its the first 2 patch notes that we havent gotten a nerf in!!!

Again what the heck are you talking about? Rogues were top spot couple of weeks mid december. And you still dont understand that this post isnt about being top dps but to rework runes that are lacking to make a class actually have a choice in them! But hey atleast you proved that the reason you are crying in here is because your class isnt in the top 3 xD

He’s a troll. Put him on ignore.

Bump , problem is still here so no reason to not do it

And as I wrote , your class has had 1 broken specc whole Sod! While other classes have it far Worse! The second one of your broken specs gets nerfed you Get another.

It’s because of which specc is broken.
People choose to play hunter to be ranged as thats how the class has always been. Melee is a secondary specc in our eyes.

Now when melee is the only viable one and ranged hunters are broken it wont matter if we have a working specc or not.

In the end the wrong specc is broken.