I am a rogue player and the current PVP "balance" makes me very sad

Yes… they do…

Why should a class with perma stealth and numerous possibilities to restealth not have many counters? Fighting a rogue is incredibly annoying and only fun for the rogue himself.

Not neseccary.

The normal Prem, Nightstalker, MFD, Potw, Deepening Shadows and Master of Shadows still deletes a few speccs with Master Assassind.

Ah yes i see rogs dominate for 11 years kid

Cata? Yes last patch rogues were sick, but so were warriors with their tendril weapon and swifty one-shot.
MoP? Warriors were WAY better than rogues in MoP - no doubt. Rogues even had a season in MoP where they weren’t viable unless you played with spriest. And every spriest prioritized mages.
WoD? Warriors won blizzcon.
Legion? Every melee class was stupid.
BfA? Fair I guess, but warriors weren’t bad at all either. Rogues were better than warriors this expansion though.

But you see how in none of these expansions warriors were bad? And the skill-cap completely disappeared from warriors after WoD release. Only reason rogues are a topic 24/7 is because they got plenty of cc, stealth and are played less than classes like warriors that keep defending their own class.

Dude rogs are broken since arena started. In s1 tbc

only reason why rogues are a topic is the free restealth conduit that reduces the skill-cap to nothing making RM even more viable than ever (i mean than all 14years since arena got released)

In the meantime … I had a flameshock with 43s remaining on me the other day, that’s equally stupid. If DoTs can last close to a full minute and there isn’t such a conduit you just can never restealth.

It’s stupid in both scenarios.

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@Shadenox
i fully agree

Damn you replied instantly. You need a second off the forums dude.
I didn’t play tbc max level, but I actually heard warriors were amazing in tbc as well. You can’t argue that warriors haven’t dominated arena as well.

Lol more viable than ever… You joking? No it is just the only comp we can play. Compare RMP in cata with RMP now…

Same for u go away from the forums mr fotm.

I mean lets go back to work Haha.

I wonder why u dont poste on main?

Play mage/rouge and you cant lose

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The shaman pet conduit is also ridiculous.

Exactly u literally cant lose

You have 4931 posts dude. And 4800 of them are you talking about rogues and you defending warriors.

Cuz I prefer doing it on this character because I don’t play it. Simple.

Can you stop talking trash? You are 2.7k dude as warrior and 1.6k as rogue(when rogues were best). If it was so easy you would be atleast equal exp on both?

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Not to be that guy but rogue was great all of bfa if you played with your iconic mage, as a class as whole rogue left me with a very unfulfilled feeling being squishy and niche though like a warrior powerful with a healer, i felt easily replaced by monks during season 2 and 3 after the removal of certain talents. SL your a meme if your playing rogue to enjoy it or feel impactful. People who doesn’t play rogue will know the pain of being the only melee forced to properly actively look to reset fights or rely on cheese

I love how people say… RM are viable for 11 or 14 years… So is warrior / healer… So what now? Nerf the living sh… Out of warriors or healers? because they are a good team since TBC s1?

C’mon, mage / rogue is basically the only fun comp in my opinion were rogue/healer is just booring or right now even mediocre… sure you can get rating etc. But it is way more annoying and the warrior / healer (for 14y) are very hard counters where is no room for error whilst warrior can fk up and still win.

Mage /rogue is a fast paced gameplay, make a mistake and lights out where i cannot say the same to healer/warrior.

But i do understand that a condemn spamming big guy will never ever admit anything like this…

And no1 really understands that without the crit legendary rogues hit like a wet noodle, it’s simply hilarious how weak we hit without crit. 800 backstab on plate… 1k on cloth and that is if stars allign… therefor rogues run for restealth in order to survive as stealth is out best deffensive and we can do decent dmg when we open on some1!

This is literally the worst example anyone could have come up with considering current warrior state.

Got 70-0 and later game 100-0 by a rogue in duel. Yep, deffinately unplayable. Kappa

The only reason rogues “struggle” so much rn is because intervene exists in its current version. The class per se is balanced, just poorly designed.

Yup, duels matter, it’s how you get glad !

What is wrong with my example? If you make mage/rogue unplayable then make warrior/healer unplayable … But your brain cannot understand that mage for a rogue is as vital as a healer for a warrior… That is at least for me, as i just get tilted playing rogue/healer… It requires soo mich effort to scratch some1 to death whilst playing out of ya mind to get the cc chains off whic are easy to prevent…

But you are playing a warlock so i do not expect you to understand anything.