Assuming you play warrior, that’s barely enough for stances and MS. Do you click the rest?
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at the moment I am on the fence for SL and I heard mixed reviews. but I like tbc more for Blood elves, draenei and arenas I like to do
Not necessarily if you have only started playing in that expansion.
I would’ve at least understood if Blizzard put in the effort to make NPC’s reactions vary depending on your achievements, but it still feels jarring when I just started playing, and in a few days of killing boars I’m already treated like I’m the last hope of Azeroth.
This all started with WotLK, tbh. Even in TBC, NPCs do not treat you as if you were the almightly slayer of gods and dragons you might have been in Vanilla. But starting with WotLK, NPCs start openly referencing you as if you have basically gone through the entire TBC raid progression… whether you did or not. Heck, I’m especially curious to see, now that we’ll only level through one expansion until 50, if the NPC for the Alliance will still say:
" I’ve heard about you and what you did in Outland. To be honest, you’re a cut above these poor saps. Lines aren’t for you." (source: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=11672/enlistment-day)
Retail is not an MMO… Show me anytime you ever see a MASSIVE amount of players on the screen at once in that game, lol. A game that uses sharding can never be MASSIVE.
This is my opinion and I believe it.
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Considering I play on a high populated realm, I constantly see hundreds of players walking around lmao.
You say it’s your opinion, but it’s not a fact.
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Dunno bout you, but I can see a few people on there XD.
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Yes that is in fact a few people indeed. A shared world with a few people. That’s what I said retail is…
What exactly is few people there though?
That’s just in one zone lol.
Do we need to have 100s of people in one zone lagging the entire area to make it not empty? XD.
Ok so my argument is that retail is not an mmorpg but instead an ActionRPG because it doesn’t have MASSIVE amount of players in it… Classic do have massive amounts of players in it so I call that an MMORPG. The combat style is more action in retail in small group eSport environments while it’s more massive in Classic.
Does retail need hundreds of players on screen and lag? No ofc not. But that’s my point. It’s not massive.
But retail does have massive amounts of players in it?
I encounter hundreds of players daily, what exactly does it not make it massive?
The only difference is with retail is that the players are spread out a lot more as opposed to classic.
My realm is full, with hundreds of people in the capital cities.
It’s still a mmorpg 
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Sharding makes it not massive.
But it’s a silly discussion. I fully understand that. We have different opinions about how to use a word.
It’s still has a massive amount of players on it, so what makes it not a mmorpg?
ESO has different phases of players in it.
SWTOR has different instances of players in it.
They are still MMORPGS.
Here’s the definition.
Massively multiplayer online role-playing games ( MMORPGs ) are a combination of role-playing video games and massively multiplayer online games which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual world.
So, I’m interacting with all these people… so what’s not massive about it? xD.
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How many times do I have to explain? Sharding makes it non massive. There is nothing Massive in retail. It’s small pockets of sharded ActionRPG.
Don’t forget, you can play the spec you want and be viable
That’s what I meant on point 3
Plenty of times.
Ur just biased lul
I’m not. Not even paying attention. All the expansions since Cata seem the same to me.
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Ok lets try and define MASSIVE.
For me, massive means 100+ players in the same area doing something together, to or against eachother actively.
Does that ever happen in retail?
It happens weekly in Classic. World pvp, world bosses, running to raids, collecting buffs, popping heads. Stuff like that. A game with a MASSIVE amount of players in a world that is not sharded.
The word massive is more a description of a feeling than a measurement. A lot of people play retail. Millions in fact. But its not massive.
TBC is the best (or close second) expansion of 16 years.
Shadowlands is just a hype like many -failed- others.
The choice is so clean for me.
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Yes, yes it does.
I’ve literally shown you a screenshot of that many players.
So they need to lag the server waiting for buffs in order to be a massive game? lol.
Sorry that you’ve never really played retail past level 20 and seen the massive amounts of players
I see what u did there