I Am Undead And I Need Help

To be fair, the onus isn’t only on them – people are replying to every post they make, despite the argument spinning in circles with no sign of any common ground being found.

That being said, it does seem like they’ve gotten a lot more… heated since I last checked this thread a few days ago. It’s worth remembering that the forums aren’t especially important and don’t have a big impact on in-game RP.

If Quillestra is happy doing whatever it is they’re doing (which honestly seems unclear based on their responses) then cool, nobody here can stop them.

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You have admitted yourself that you are new to roleplay.

Sit down and take the advice from people who have the experience.

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We’re waiting.

Nerevar, I saw a display of savagery the likes of which no member of any of Tamriel’s races Man, Mer, or Lizard should have to see. I was going to Suran to buy some more candles for the Sixth House bases and decided to pick up some wraps while I was there. While I was at the booth waiting to receive my wraps from the restaurant, I saw a fight break out between an orc and a bosmer. The orc was about seven foot fifty and was built like a steam centurion who watched too many masculinity influencers. My money was on him. The bosmer was about five foot nothing and looked absolutely blasted on skooma. His glassy eyes were sunken, his teeth falling out, and he smelled like crapping himself was more of a life style than a matter of circumstance for him.

I used to get into a lot of street fights in my youth, they called me the Dagoth Destroyer, and this bosmer was weak, Nerevar. But when hands began to be thrown, he jumped on top of that orc and sunk his few remaining teeth into him like a wild animal. No, I am not implying all bosmer are wild animals, unless they want to be. He started biting and giving this orc the Green Pact Special, by which I mean he was windmilling his arms at incredible speeds and beating the crap out of him, as the poor green bastard tried to shake him off.

It turns out it is very difficult to get a bosmer off of you after he has latched his teeth in and the orc had to use an ancient dangerous forbidden street fighting technique. He simply fell over on top of the bosmer and attempted to crush him with his weight. This should have killed that bosmer dead. Unfortunately for the orc, this only seemed to steel this resolve. On the way down, the bosmer pulled a full Jackie Chan and warped, spasmed out, turned into a troll on the spot right before my godly eyes.

Nerevar, I had heard that this was something bosmer could do - something about defending their homeland in the time of their greatest need. Apparently this cracked out junkie’s body decided that a street fight in a disgusting restaurant was his time of greatest need. I suspect this specific combination of dirt, blood, and unspeakable horrors left uncleaned on the floor of this restaurant accidentally contained all the alchemical reagents required to trigger the Wild Hunt.

The orc, to give him credit, seemed much more annoyed than afraid, and managed to get away from the troll long enough to call the guards. I missed most of the rest of what happened because my wrap was ready and my mind was firmly on that. But the next time I was able to pay attention, the troll was being hauled off by the Suran city guard and there was a Restoration mage reattaching the orc’s left arm and right leg. Judging by the lack of hair on the troll’s limbs and the severed pair of arms on the ground, it appeared the orc won the fight and the troll regenerated after the guards caught it.

I attempted to recruit that orc to the Sixth House by offering him a wrap but he called me an NPC and told me that I couldn’t understand the troll killing grindset. He still took the wrap though so I think I’m making progress.

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Couldn’t be more true. No common ground can ever be found, because we have completely different opinion on what RP, lore integrity, fun etc. are. I have a natural “talent” or curse for starting such heated debates, but I keep on going for as long as it keeps me entertained.

The argument has become boring and repetitive, I must say. The old fellas are already just trolling and the newcomers don’t want to read through the whole thread to contribute anything valuable. I will never understand what bothers these people so much, but I guess it’s their problem, not mine.

Literally no one is arguing that in this thread or has at any given point. If the person wants to RP a san’layn in the middle of Orgrimmar - they will regardless of what has been said here. If the people will accept that - now that is up to them, not the san’layn gamer.

What is being heatedly argued, however, is the absolutely deranged proclamations of them being a lore expert, backing it with not the actual lore sources - any canon lore sources at this point - but by citing some ridiculous statements like “well, on MOONGUARD… [insert a point]”, or “well this youtuber/twitch personality/twitter warrior has done [insert another point]” and so on and so forth.

That’s not even a debate or a heated argument. That’s just wrong statement by default when it comes to that.

Or it could be just a massive :fishing_pole_and_fish: , which I am inclined to think it is.

Your ability to read and analyze things amazes me, maybe you should be the one to quit this thread and stop writing nonsense.

Oh, oh, this must be a mistake.
You’re… You’re who?
No, no, no, no, I’m sorry but I have to draw the line somewhere
I don’t know about Vivek or Caldera, or any of those other little :poop: holes
But we have certain standards here on Red Mountain
I could handle the God damn lizard you know
But this?
This is something else
A Khajiit?
Really? A :angry: mouth-breathing cat?
Is Azura even trying anymore?
Moon and star?
More like moonsugar and star
I’m surprised you didn’t pawn the thing off to go buy some
You little evolutionary cul-de-sac
You know, I bust my :peach:
I mean, I really try to make this place reborn and purged
And what do you do?
Strip down to your skivvies, and down seven bottles of skooma
Before punching a guard in the back of the head
You’re looking at me with that glazed-over, lobotomized look in your swiveled eyes
So I’ll assume you can understand me
Take those clown feet of yours and lumber on out of here

[I am not responsible for the censorship enforced by the forums due to mean no-no words]

→ Claims to keep going for as long as it keeps them entertained.

→ Says the argument has become boring and repetitive.

→ Stops arguing.

→ Directly goes on to continue snarking.

No common ground can be found here because while a bunch of us have given you thoroughly logical counter arguments as towards why your outlook on RP might bring you a list of problems (while admittedly sometimes being a bit rude about it), all you’ve responded with are snarky remarks as if the core of your very being is being assaulted.

It’s very rich to claim we’re the ones trolling you when the tone of voice you’ve been utilising from the get-go rivals the bitterness of a grapefruit without any of the nutritional value.

You’re lucky us forumites only represent a fraction of the realm or your reputation would have been utterly demolished by now.

Why blame me for that? We almost settled that we stop the argument, and then the guy proceeds to trigger me. Not only does he contribute absolutely nothing to the conversation by rotating my words 180° and making me restate the same things for the 100th time here, but he also misleads the possible newcomers. They come here, don’t waste their time on reading through all the 400 messages, and take such comments as brief descriptions of the conflict. I don’t want my legacy here to be stained like this, so for every false accusation I will obviously defend myself and my truth.

Couldn’t have been better! Because I still have no idea why you are so mad. There are zero reasons to be upset.

Yeah you’re a troll.

Bye.

I’m an undead elf.

I thought you were a Darkfallen in Orgrimmar.

Not only, my heart is with Silvermoon and Undercity/Brill, tbh.

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Nor can anyone stop the players who decide to ignore or not engage with her.

You can do headcanon, alternate lore, and Mary Sues to your heart’s content but don’t be surprised if players don’t interact with you or if they react strictly in the canon framework.

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The common ground is canon Warcraft lore. That’s why you boot up World of Warcraft for roleplay, and not Minecraft, Final Fantasy or Call of Duty: Modern warfare.

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I think this was said earlier and honestly the thread could have mellowed out from that, Quill or we has their mind made up. Just avoid em’ if they’re not to your tastes.

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When this exchange happened:

It should’ve been clear (even though there’s been multiple exchanges to this degree already) that what may have started as a (somewhat) genuine discussion/argument regarding the merit of San’layn RP, has now turned into massive :poop: posting and rage-baiting. The great Darkfallen Bamboozle.

Best to let the thread die and move on. Whatever the original topic Corpselord had going on is dead and buried.

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Telling people that you’re not okay with an outlandish concept shouldn’t be frowned upon, imo. A community is still a shared living space, and being uncomfortable or cringed over by other people’s concepts is a thing.

It’s like sharing a living space: you want the other person to keep the area comfortable to you and the others who live there.

But I think we’ve gone too far?
We all know the forums have a threatening effect on fresh blood. We can use this power to accommodate people, and make them feel like we are a cool community (are we, even?) or bring them close to a breakdown.

Yes, yes, she has been a jerk too, but she’s alone and the forums are legion. It’s hard to be kind when you have twenty or more people making fun of you.

In her own way, this player (perhaps way younger than you) is reaching out for contact with the community. Let’s give them some respite.

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