Oh… sweet Jesus.
How can one person keep melting down for a week straight? Oh, right, they’re an Orgrimmar San’layn “RPer” 
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Combined with the poem they at the time also wore a very stereotypical San’layn set (ICC mage) and held a lot of rage in Rotgarde’s recruitment thread over them not accepting their character because she is an undead elf that isn’t a dark ranger.
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I didn’t even know this was connected to another thread. I know they were annoyed about not being recruited(as that was part of the discussion much earlier), but I thought it was all in this thread.
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To be fair, I also do that on my darkfallen priest. I like the set.
This however I missed.
Yeah it was a very bizarre display
I never did say they’re the same thing and I never would’ve. Because it’s not true.
Still mad that I called out your guild master? Oh don’t worry, one day you’ll get over it 
I never contacted Rotgarde members and asked for recruitment. The criticism on my part was about the phrasing they use in their advertisement.
Then how did you know they didn’t accept that character concept?
From the comments, duh
Between your two attempts at prodding them in this thread and your borderline elitist take in the other one earlier today, I’m getting some toxic vibes from you.
And I’m saying that as the quote on quote toxic talking head of the forums, so I clearly have some authority on the subject.
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This is the problem, because you are saying this now, yet every argument you’ve done in this thread has seemed like you do not understand the difference.
As every time someone has argued that certain undead characters might not work everywhere, you have immediately dismissed it as saying “no undeads at all can be roleplayed” and how that is wrong.
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When we were discussing that I asked why you can’t accept the possibility of a risen undead to gain control of their actions and join the peaceful sentient undead community. No one could elaborate on that. Then I asked how you think non-DR Darkfallen came to be both in the Horde and in the Alliance. And I know that some people are very critical of this type of the undead. It pointed to the differences in our perception of the race and the lore. That’s all.
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I’m so tired.
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Okay then, lets say your theoretical risen undead who can’t blend in with the rest decides to try and join the forsaken.
What makes you think the forsaken aren’t going to shoot first, ask questions later?
EDIT: Should also add, why this undead in particular? (whether it be a san’layn or whatever). Do we have one in the lore who has joined the forsaken already? That didn’t eat all the crew of the ship they were sailing on and eventually died.
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But they accept Darkfallen? Morningstar literally plays one. I also never said you contacted them, I said you were mad about them not accepting your character. How could you know they do not accept Darkfallen without contacting them first?
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Do y’all ever get that brief yet potent feeling of self-realisation that what we’re doing (arguing on a video game forum practically dressed up as 3D fantasy figures) is inherently silly?
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It could be that its been a lengthy misunderstanding then due to how things were written, in which case I apologize for my part in it.
This is much better laid out, and because I like to, I’ll give my own thoughts to it.
This is perfectly possible depending on the undead. But it also depends on when and who raised them. The Forsaken has a habit of resurrecting undeads and offering to join them. Not joining however is usually a death sentence.
Outsiders would need to try and prove themselves. As we already discussed to death at this point, some San’layn did try but proved to not work due to their nature and behaviour. As would be the case with most former high-ranked Scourge members like the Ymirjar who willingly served the Scourge. Most would not even be given the option to try since hating the Scourge is a core of what made the Forsaken who they are. And most Scourge lieutenants would not even try in the first place.
It all depends on context for this one. What type of undead, when they were raised and by who.
I answered this and it is really simple. Alot of elves on both sides died in the 4th war. And the Forsaken resurrected them in droves. For the Horde, most simply joined there due to being compelled, or shunned by their former lives. For the Alliance, we know that they were atleast given the option to try and return if they could or wanted.
They do not. They allowed in 4 Dark Rangers before and from that monent only take former-human undead, which is but one subtype of the race in its bigger sense.
Maybe because they have a backstory for your character that involves the long and detailed process of recruitment via the existing canon rules and organizations? And you don’t go in blind "hey I’m an undead and I’m Sylvanas’ daughter! "
why you always lying though
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Okay but, why this particular undead in particular? Why do you want to go through all that to just have a “warchief signed pass”?
Or whatever organisation signed pass.