I cannot comment this other way than ex dee

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/news/eu/20th-anniversary-celebration-update-notes-24145980

Next wednesday Holy Paladin - the best healer mana wise and with the best output based on instants is getting some more buffs and a new PvP talent that is definetely needed:

  • Holy
    • New PvP Talent: Divine Plea – After casting Aura Mastery, you restore mana over 20 seconds, but your healing and damage is decreased by 30%.

Is actually anyone in the dev team playing this game?

At the same time underrepresented R Druid spec that will get some buffs got quickly counternerfed with:

  • Restoration
    • Nature’s Swiftness healing bonus is now 40% less effective in PvP combat.
    • Cenarion Ward healing is decreased by 20% in PvP combat.
    • Renewing Surge is 75% effective in PvP combat.
    • Forest’s Flow is 50% effective in PvP combat.
    • Reactive Resin is no longer a PvP talent and has moved to the Restoration talent tree.

I don’t know what to say…

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They only know how to ‘‘monitor’’ things and to promise stuff for the seasons to come. So, no. Unfortunately.

I wonder what data led them to believe rdruid needed a nerf.
Never see any. Was there even any in the awc?

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I mean R Druid is getting some talent changes and these nerfs were there to offset them but still xD R Druid is weak so it should get buffed. Most likely it will get buffed right after rework.

Those idiots in Blizzard dont give a single f about PvP balance,example is that poison cleanse totem is geting huge nerf just because is very good in M+ while the change is for all Shaman specs and nerfs us in PvP by alot

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Yeah, like when our mass dispel was gutted because it was too good in m+.

First time?

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We’ll see if that talent is used. There was already a similar talent before and it was not used due to the reduction in healing.

It’s always nice not to see healer druids in the meta, and especially after coming from an expansion like DF

It’s obvious it won’t be used but that’s not the purpose of the thread. The fact that someone came up with such idea is hilarious. Why would you even think of such talent for the best healer mana wise. This shows how out of touch they are and that they don’t play their own game.

on the flip side, you got given stuff like shadow crash because of m+

m+ giveth, m+ taketh away.

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its pretty clear that this is one of the seasons they really forgot about pvp by a larger margin

i know what u gonna say, they forgot in df season 4 too
but then again theey were working on sod, tww, and had other things going, and the pvp also felt already more polished somehow…

I have a theory they are trying to push Blitz and make Arenas obsolete so they balance around it. These R Druid buffs are good for aoe healing and nerfs are there to offset single target.

i mean, might just be me, but i hope we move away from arena, finally, wow works, arena clearly doesn’t that much, and balancing for arena has done more harms then good, specially as they barely even done it properly…

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It’s not that Blitz is perfectly balanced.

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I do think they should disallow spec stacking in blitz tbh.
It would make meta specs have less of an effect on the outcome I think

They should add passive to all healers - “healing decreased by 100% in pvp”. Only then this game will be good. Not sarcasm btw.

Everyone discusses and then this Havoc fotm reroller comes with the most fried take ever. Go make a healer noob and try to play it before you post anything.

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Healers and tanks in its current state exists only in wow. And look how many players want to play pvp here? 5%, maybe even 3% of playerbase.

Keep saying 3v3 arena is good and healers are what wow really need in pvp, and soon you will need to post on forum to find players to be able to queue.

No one likes what you 3.5 arena enjoyers like, that is clearly represented by half dead AWC stream.

You know when wow start to losing its pvp community? When they removed rewards from 2v2 in 2009.

Yeah, it’s definetely healers. They are also responsible for famine, earthquakes, hurricanes and floods. What a moron

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Bro blitz is literally just random bgs. How is anyone who played late into the season supposed to push when half the team has 0 gear and are just running around fighting in mid.

Blitz has created the most toxic environment even worse than shuffle. I’ve already seen friends get suspended/banned thanks to this joke of a bracket that’s allowing players who shouldn’t even be on their mmr in the first place, but thanks to the RNG gods it made it possible.

They need to seriously rework the rewards in this game. Blitz should not have the same rewards as arenas.

They made glad mount booty cheeks on purpose to incentives players to queue up for the gutter that is blitz.

This has to be THE worst season ever. They’ve honestly killed pvp as a whole. My whole friends list just does m+, you know the game mode that’s killing pvp and the reason why melee are getting so much mobility and casters/healers not needing to cast anything anymore.

It’s even more funny knowing pve people claim it’s the worst m+ season

What a failure of an expansion

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Can you get outta here with this dps only bs. Nothing is stopping you from finding like minded individuals and fighting eachother in wargames.

This isn’t MoP where dps weren’t so dependent on healers.