I feel ashamed if I log in

TL; DR - I feel ashamed if I log in, because it makes me feel like part of the problem rather than the solution to making Blizzard great again.

My friends list is empty, everyone I ever met and have known in World of Warcraft no longer plays the game.

When I recently resubscribed, my girlfriend gave me a disappointing look and said that I just wasted my money. It was the kind of look as if I had spent money on a game from EA.

People I know, laugh about the downfall of Blizzard, they make jokes and youtube is completely filled with terrible news in regards to everything related to Blizzard. Even content creators, whom have always remained positive about anything Blizzard related, are now criticizing the company.

But I am hurting. It honestly pains me to see and hear all this. Blizzard, the company of my childhood memories, my favorite game in the whole world, World of Warcraft… turning into a greedy slotmachine.

World of Warcraft was the game my friends and I would play all the time during our late teens. It was our relief and outlet, a place of wonders you could escape to. As we grew older, we all had less time to play as real life, work and family started taking up more and more time.

World of Warcraft was the game where I met my first online friends. It was incredible, to become part of online communities and passionate developers would always deliver new and exciting content for us. Blizzard was a company, a giant in the game industry where both players and developers could prosper.

But then those priorities shifted. Blizzard was suddenly no longer about making great games, but instead… it become about making great profit. When it became Activision Blizzard, it certainly became all about the profit and my friends began to leave the game.

World of Warcraft turned pay 2 win and got away with it, due to a loyal and passionate fans who didn’t want to see the company taking a turn for the worse. You no longer had to level a character to experience and explore the World of Warcraft, you could just buy your way to max level… and then to BoE gear from mythics and raids.

The core systems and game mechanics, were replaced with simplified versions, to draw in the casual crowd, the amount of content that would come with each expansion became smaller and smaller. We started getting less for our 14 euro a month and everyone felt it. Developers started leaving the company.

Creative control was taken away from developers, unrealistic deadlines were set and expansions started feeling less like actual expansions, but more like a small content mod, fitting of a Steam EARLY ACCESS game. Meanwhile, marketing would offer exaggerated growth to investors and shareholders, blatantly lying to fans about what were going to get.

Censorship went to the extremes, community feedback could only be accepted if it was within the company rules. Any direct criticism towards staff or employees would be immediately shut down. Comments removed, users banned from reddit and forums and overall community feedback would be completely ignored.

So called “PTR” or “BETA” stages, would in reality become pre-alpha versions, no where near ready of being deployed. But they were anyway, so quality control went out the window. Interestingly enough, the fans kept paying. No one wanted to believe that things had gone so bad.

Activision Blizzard, your staff and employees… the reality is though, that it has. It is bad, you all know it and unfortunately, we know it too now. I know, that you working for the company have been hurting too. In that way, I feel personally that I let you down. Because even though I voiced my opinions on the forums, the real way I should have spoken, should had been with my wallet.

I know that you have for years been silently screaming at us, the fans, hoping that we would catch on what really is going on. Bound by confidentiality contracts, at the risk of losing your most passionate and desirable job, you hoped that we, the consumer, would catch on and make things better for you. I am sorry that we are so late to do so.

In a way, we failed you. But from a different perspective, one could say you failed us. You could have come forward too, spoken up against the injustice and I believe it is great that you do now, but there are two sides to the coin.

What are we make to make of all these recent news, about paycuts, lost bonuses, employees living in communes and unable to start families due to your obscene working conditions. I want to feel bad for you, but you need to speak up in order for us to do. Because when you don’t, you give the impression that you are part of the company that makes great money, rather than the one which makes great games.

The issue, however… is that a lot of fans have lost faith that Blizzard can be restored. Because it is no longer up to the passionate developers to restore the greatness in Blizzard, because there is no Blizzard anymore. There is Activision Blizzard, and their priority is clearly not make great games. Investors and shareholders need satisfaction, not the consumer.

You guys working for the company have been in the crosshair ever since Blizzcon, but rightfully so. Throughout all this time, every fan of any or all your IP’s has been desperately waiting and hoping for some kind of communication, metaphorically speaking “a pat on the back, with a reassuring glimpse of a bright future”. But it hasn’t come and instead we got corporate damage control, which only made things worse.

These forums are our only links, to the company behind our favorite franchise and childhood memories. Heavily censored by moderators and rarely glimpsed by community managers. But you, the community managers, were for a long time a part of the community until you went silent. You were the voice of players, the voice of feedback and criticism that relayed the most important information to the developers. Perhaps you still do and perhaps it falls on deaf ears up the chain of command… but we, do not know.

I feel ashamed to pay a subscription, because I do not feel that 14 euro goes to the development of my favorite franchise. It goes directly into chasing the latest best thing that will keep investors and shareholders satisfied and not the actual game I wish to see grow. Hell, I would gladly pay 30 euro a month, if I knew that money would give a rookie intern programmer or a game master a good meal or help them pay their rent.

I feel absolutely disgusted knowing that my 14 euro is going to chase mobile games or a completely different franchise, while Battle for Azeroth is left to rot in the awful state it is in. But that’s the sad fact, corporate capitalism at its worst. Not a single lesson learned from other companies that took this direction, it’s all about milking the cow.

It frikken sickens me, to know that I am the cow being milked here, that you, Activision Blizzard is squeezing my teets for maximum profit. I will not let you anymore, let me tell you that is for certain and I feel absolutely sorry for everyone who is still in a state of denial, because throwing money down the drain never had a more direct meaning than paying a current WoW subscription.

Those of you, who left the company and stayed silent due to the huge check you got at the door… shame on you. Shame on all of you, you took the “blood-money” and remained silent. You allowed these greedy corporate suits, to take advantage of your loyal fans for years. You may be speaking up now, but you should have done so earlier… way earlier. You let us down!

To those of you, still working and endorsing/enforcing the greedy corporate politics of Acitivision Blizzard? Shame on you even more. When you look in the mirror every morning, you should know that you above all others, are a spineless coward that takes advantage of other people, their passion and money.

To those of you, employed in within the company itself who finally speak up against Activision Blizzard? Bravo… that took some serious guts and we the fans know and are aware of the risks you took. We the fans, salute you and above all, thank you! You are true heroes.

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MaKe BlIzZaRd GrEaT aGaIn

eh, I mean, I do think Activision have a ploy in some of the folly decisions done within Blizzard games, but assuming you are part of a problem, which you have no control over and is out of your control, is a silly thing to dwell on my friend.

Enjoy the game how you see fit, I also play the game without any friends nowadays, which is a shame, but It’s up to me to meet new ones in the wonderful World of Warcraft.

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Kinda obvious you never got further than the TL:DR part :wink: Thanks for the reply however.

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Simple solution for you…Don’t log in, it’s not like Blizzard have a gun to your head is it!

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Even better solution is to cancel my subscription, which I just did. Activision Blizzard doesn’t have a gun to my head, but according to recent news, they do have one pointed at their own staff.

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I for one are extremely ashamed of you for that wall of text.

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Ok bye then, adios, etc etc etc.

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The post were a bit whiny, but I agree with your assessment and I feel the same way. Although I am more frustrated than ashamed. The thing is that there’s not really any good competition in the market to take the place of WoW.

I am subbed on a month to month basis. Sometimes I go without a sub for longer periods, sometimes only a few days. It at least makes me feel more in control.

But yeah, WoW is in a bad place right now, surviving only due to its massive catalogue of content (current and old), familiar setting and streamlined gameplay. You can’t find it in other MMOs these days, sadly.

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It’s a weird spot for the game to be and, ironically, the same effect which kept it alive for so long now is damaging it. The community would sustain itself by forming a sense of bonding which couldn’t be replaced. Now the community is bonding into creating complain bandwaggons for pretty much everything and multiply the frustration a person might be feeling. (not saying that every complain is invalid mind you)

I’m not happy with the economic direction the game has taken, because it’s evident that there are developers who really want to pour their soul into this, but never given the time.

For now I’m still having fun with some activities, mostly raiding and sometimes M+ depending on the affixes, so I’m eager to stick around and see how things change.

The sad part is that it doesn’t matter what our choice is. Unsubbing can be just as harmful as staying in whether Activision will enforce stricter policies which will hurt the game even more, so I’d say that people should decide mostly on whether they are actually having fun. When it comes to the corporate greed of the top of the gaming industry, voting with your wallet just doesn’t work and they have very little touch with reality.

We’re talking about the same people who call selling millions of copies for games not living up to expectations, as if in their heads the sales can exceed the amount of actual people who engage in gaming, a specific genre and so on.

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Don’t log on then and let the others users of the game who are enjoying it play away. My friends’ list is capping daily at near 40 online people, and ok not all of them are on World of Warcraft, but most are.

I don’t get the point of these whinge threads… I mean, it’s pretty straightforward.

Offer productive feedback, or just move on. Tonnes of players are still enjoying a wide variety of their games, including World of Warcraft - BfA so far has been a solid 7/10 for me, and with patches to come, I suspect it will increase.

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You feel ashamed to log in? That’s a bit dramatic.

Am I the only one that still enjoys playing?

The only thing that’s changed for me is that I now have to ration my time playing alternatively to the days when I was a responsibility-free teenager.

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I really think the post is a tad over dramatic, somehow I fail to agree with the way you decided to convey the message… not that I Don’t feel the same way about many of the aspects you talked. So i’ll tag along my friend.

A friend of mine sent me the link of that video of blizzard employee condition of work… needless to say I was shocked.
Right now, I have myself no idea what the heck is going down: employees get screwed, customers get screwed, we Don’t get good games… what is happening?

I unsubuscribed too. I log in and try so hard to have fun. I just can’t. I have now 4 max level toons, geared them up. I can’t pug anything, the Economy is a mess, there is a giant world empty and 2 islands about to join them soon… i Don’t get it.

Usually companies have to appeal customers, yet you and I, and many other fans, are in the same boat: we want to play but it’s so bad we can’t take it anymore. They have everything on a golden plate, all those new leaders of this company. Solid fan base, dedicated employees, a huge reputation they had… all of it. They had it all.

How can you screw it so bad? This is what feels the worst, it’s not that Wow is only being a subpar game compared to others now (it is, 100% it is), bt it’s also a subpar game of what it used to be…

I won’t be playing classic, I Don’t want to rewind time. I loved those times, mainly TBC for me. I Don’t want to touch the memories I had, I made amazing friends from back then I’m sure you did too. I remember not going to school, and use the few Pocket money I had to go to a netcafe… I was playing wow and didn’t have internet at home. Best times.

Nowadays I have to fight to log in and find Something fun. I’m mad at them.
We didn’t fail them: we kept paying and gave them many chances.

Don’t say we did. We did our best as loyal fans. As soon as a I had the computer to play wow again (MacBook air 11" from university contract), I did and came back… never had the time nor the Opportunity before.
You sticked around too. You gave them time and money to rebuild and get better.

If any time things go wrong you just let eveything go away, you Don’t leave many room for a 2nd chance… we had to stay for a while.
I think sadly the Community is to blame to: look at the answers you got on this thread. Do those look passionate to you? As we used to be as teenager?

It’s all gone mate. I have decided to move on with my life. I never watched Disney, or just a few, and I didn’t have that Disney culture lot of other kids had. I had star wars, the good old ones, not the crap we had recently.

I had lord of the rings a bit, loved the hobbit (the book, not the recent trash). And Warcraft III. Had later on Warhammer, and dawn of war, but Warcraft III played a HUGE role in my late kid year ealry teenage Hood.

I’m very sad too. When I unsubbed I felt weird. Never did. i took a break in legion, 3 months but didn’t unsub. Kept it loyally there.
I Don’t think I was a fool. ultimately, if a company gotta go down they will. Blizzard seems to have enjoyed making wholes all over the ship they’re on…

I have 10 days left. I keep logging more and more, trying to play… it’s just not there.

I think it’s the time to say Goodbye to this game. Going downhill is a thing, but now, it’s a dead corpse. Many youtuber/streamer will keep trying their best to pretend it’s amazing next patch etc… but those people are tied by the income. I will not trust them.

It’s a shame. I still enjoy trhe game somehow. But the amount of time you spend doing absolutely Nothing while tagging any kind of meaningful content because all the rest is a chore you have to do…

Well, Farewell buddy. Maybe we will comeback. I desesperatly want you. I hope they read our posts. We’re the last few ones caring enough.
All they’re going to have left are the trash spamming “gimme your stuff” or stupid whiteknights who could say thank you master while you shag their own daughter of 8 in front of them.

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I know that I enjoy playing. People need to realize that the Blizzard of old was long gone the day the company was sold to Activision.

Also people grow up and move on, your friends may simply no longer have the time to devote to WOW as they did in the past.

You should not feel ashamed because you play WOW and log in. WOW still can be fun to log into. Maybe you need to make new friends or join a social guild so you can enjoy it again. Or take a break and return once patch 8.1 drops.

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I think that’s a really good point. Personally it does seem like “fun” has diminished a lot in BFA.

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Hello!

I agree that people should only pay and play while they continue to have fun and find the game entertaining and value for money.

As far as “the demise of Blizzard”, it’s just the natural cycle of things (the cycle of life can be cruel!). Yes, Blizzard are, or have, turned into a shadow of what they used to be. But understand that way back in history, even Activision and EA were not the ‘evil’ that they represent nowadays. Unfortunately it’s just how it is, a company gets too big, the culture changes and their values change.

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you are not alone :slight_smile: i enjoy this expansion a lot - leveling is amazing and there is a lot to do .

people who dont enjoy the game should just leave and leave the game to those who enjoy it.

harsh i know but its true.

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Great post, OP. And great post from Gehei as well.

I stand a little closer to Gehei in that while I realize that me continuing to pay a sub and buying boxes while the game was getting worse ultimately contributed to the game declining further, I am not feeling ashamed. This is not on me, this is not my problem, sorry. It’s on Blizzard. What I did was support them continuously, giving them feedback on what’s wrong, giving them suggestions on what to do (and trying to shape suggestions in such a way that they’d be easy to implement as well), giving them time and room to fix their issues, giving them second and third and fourth chances. This continued support ultimately bore very little fruit and that’s a damn pity, but no, it’s not on me, it’s on them.

Now, the money question - will I unsub? Yes, I will. But not because I think this will influence anything. Simply because I will run out of things that interest me in this game. Right now I have a couple of such things still, but only a couple and the future looks very dark, I don’t think I will last for very long. 8.1 is not interesting. Maybe I’ll have enough things to keep going until 8.2. But after that, well…

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WoW is great for me.

If I don’t sub and do something to eat my time in evenings I’ll just spend all my money on vodka and coke anyways

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Were you even played wow in last 14 years ? like boosts exist from 2004 you can boost your char to 110 lvl like getting 120 lvl you have WON what?
Not sure about what you are talking you can buy boe gear normal raid quaility max random few pieces for astronomic prices sure you won something i guess having bought gear from auction house sure you won.
YOU ARE PLAYING ON RP REALM posting from lvl 110 hugely undergeared even if it was current expansion what you have against casual players by looking at you : you are ULTRA casual .

I am curious about :

The core systems and game mechanics, were replaced with simplified versions, to draw in the casual crowd, the amount of content that would come with each expansion became smaller and smaller.

SUre since you do not feel ashamed posting here clearly you can give me some examples and comparisons between back then and now so far you have just wrote nothing i can tangle nothing i can see what have you wanted to say except you are saying for some reason you have gf what is totally unnecessary and pointless information say what you want to say : back then you did X Y Z and there was Q W E say something from your post i see just pile of :poop::poop::poop::poop::poop::poop:

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mantrum crits for 5k words

September Cry for You ==> that way

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