Now people just obsess over M+ score, or raid exp, mounts, titles, FOMO stuff that they remove…no wonder trade/service is full of boosters. it feels like an online market now not a game ;/
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I turned off all the services and decided to go all the way back to the beginning of the game with my druid finish every single quest, achievement and collection that I can, this is how bad its gotten as I’ve given up raiding and I can never get a group going for M+ so I gave up, once my sub lapses I think I may be done with WoW after playing from the very start unless the next expansion announcement is an epic banger.
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I guess you’ve spoken to each and every player in the game to draw such conclusions? 
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That’s pretty much the point of the channel. They could’ve called it “spam”, but since there’s actually a point, it would just be “sam”, and that doesn’t have the same ring to it.
well when you don’t push m+ score or progress raids you have nothing to do(as endgame content) so you come to forums complain about it. people love this seasonal content nonsense for some reason and that’s what blizzard is focused on these days. hoping for better days tho.
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Leave all channels, find a nice guild if you can or just chill solo. Sometimes I talk to random pugs and we have a laugh for a while then go our separate ways. It’s more than enough for me, that and forum interaction and I try to avoid arguementative threads. I also don’t bother with M+/Raid/PvP.
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Or people play for fun and rewards add to it
People do play this game for fun, but you won’t find them in Trade Services or LFG putting M+ groups together etc.
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This gave me a new enterprising idea.
/Trade (services) Amonet- Ravencrest: Professional guild offering friends list boosts. This month only buy up to 10 bnet friends only for 50k.
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That’s also how I feel and I think exactly this is what made me stop enjoying it. Nothing really matters. It’s all a market tied to real-life, and the game kind of adapts to being a market. Initially I had fun in pvp, but then I found out that it’s apparently full of cheaters/bots/boosters, and not many play this for pure enjoyment. It’s also a toxic trash can tbh and ppl lash out at eachother.
Then I went to PvE, and it’s better, but it also doesn’t feel like people have fun, because they seem to be terrible at the game mostly (No toxicity here intended) and play for achievements. I don’t flame them, but it does seem/feel like people don’t care about playing well, and they also don’t care about the story, the mechanics of the dungeon, or really anything. Lots of people are boosted, to cheese themselves into groups, but then they don’t contribute and don’t play well. I understand buying boosts, because nowadays it’s a requirement, but then these people also don’t try to play the game after by themselves. It’s like they buy a boost to then get boosted for free by people, who actually like the game. Also, most players are not social at all and don’t speak, unless they feel like they have to. This game is really odd, and the longer you play, the less fun you have. Right now I kinda devolved to a very casual player, and I only rly care about the story, but again, the more I learn about the story the less I care about it.
Maybe the “retail-game-formula” just doesn’t work, and it doesn’t matter what blizzard does. The alt-friendliness is also poison for a MMO, because it just doubles down on the fact that you recognize nobody in the game, because everyone has 5 characters, and I don’t feel attached to an a bunch of alts as well, so the game started feeling like League of Legends. I also think they should get rid of all cross-server boosting, and hence only make it server-specific. No more level 10 spamming in the trade chat. Only max level players of the server should be allowed to type in services chat, so it becomes extremely expensive, and blizzard should ensure that the same people typing here, also do the boost after. I think this will kinda increase familiarity, and at least people will start knowing eachother in servers.
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People still do. I’ve never paid for any sort of boost or anything from trade channels. I’m already paying to play the game and don’t see the point of paying other players for stuff I’m not bothered about doing anyway.
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I only play noob level keys and I have no problem finding groups. I got sent home from work yesterday and did 4 keys starting from ~8am. Each group took less than 5 minutes to form.
Then I did the assault and a world boss both of which had tons of players around. The low level scene is very active.
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But don’t you feel a sense of nihilism, when everything you do in the game, can be easily purchased by someone else without breaking the rules? It’s kinda weird. It takes away the feeling of getting an achievement. For example some guilds are progressing the entire season for AoTC, and other people buy it for 40k gold. Isn’t that kind of sad?
Also, it being purchasable hurts players, who wanna get it in a genuine way, because so many groups are able to have it as a requirement, because everyone has it due to how cheap it is to get boosted.
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Yes, I guess it is sad. It could be easily purchased if I wanted to, but I don’t. I prefer to work my way through everything when and how I want to.
If other people want to pay, it’s up to them but I know I wouldn’t get the sense of fun/achievement if I did that. It does make me wonder why they play in the first place.
But… that is people playing the game for fun. That is how WoW has always been played
Different people find different things fun. Some people find getting a high rank score fun, some find min-maxing DPS fun, some find getting that rare mount fun.
At the end of the day we’re all different and seeing another player doing something you find unfun doesn’t mean they are not having fun, nor does it mean you are somehow “wrong” about what you find fun.
My advice - do what you find fun and don’t worry about other folks - and if you need a group do try to find folks who want the same things you do.
Oh and if you’re not having fun when you play - stop and either find something in game you do find fun or play another game.
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Anything below rank 1 arena, 3+k in m+ and CE in raiding is not that big nowadays.
One friend plays the AH that is there fun and mounts and once every expac they buy the ATOC mount i see nothing wrong with that at all.
With ICC and RDF opening today the player base has apparently had a huge surge again we will see if it lasts.
Classic and Wotlk boosting is all over place if you have the gold you can get anything you want.
As for classic Hardcore it is the last pure game but they do over stack healers and tanks and the know the strats inside and out for many years plus spamming frostbolt and decurse when needed is not exactly fun gameplay 
Not proud of any item in the last 19 years , what i am proud of is the friends i have made and memories have made through the years.
You do know most of the players in the world top 20 guilds have real jobs as well as raiding and young family’s .
Most work in banking and other avenue’s to say you need to not have a job to get CE is a tad bit of a lie.
People who need prestige. pixels and titles are strange to me when it should be the bonds we make and the fun playing together.
its more like 15 and thats £255 nobody in there sane mind would do that.
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People do play WoW for fun 
you are just not looking in the right places.
Based on your post, you are talking about a time before Mythic raids, M+, and rated PvP… And unfortunately with game modes like that which got introduced over time, a more toxic and “serious” style of players got attracted to WoW. 
But it os what it is, and it won’t change. 
What CAN change however, is where YOU go looking for content and players to play with.
You can easily find non-toxic/casual players, who just likes to play for fun, by either finding a casual guild, or not playing content that in all fairness…. Is not designed to be casual content.
If you play M+ 20s in pugs, you should expect to find “serious” players… in the same sense as you wouldn’t join a super league football team, and expect amateur players… In an environment like that, people believe it’s more important to “win” rather than “have fun”.
Which in all fairness, I don’t blame them if players are toxic in those types of pugs. I wouldn’t love having much of my time wasted either, because someone didn’t take it serious enough, at that high level of content.
If you want to experience playing with people who are more casual (aka “fun”), then go where they are found.
And like others have mentioned, turn off some of the chat channels to avoid spam, or install an add on.
Not really. I don’t particularly care what other people have as long as it doesn’t affect me. I mostly do things because I want to do them and see how far I can push be it in raiding or M+.
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