I need titan forging back

Dude, speak for yourself, you are not even 200ilevel lmfao.

This is my alt.

My main is 203, but what does it matter? You have upgrades to get.

EDIT: xDDDD I guess

Correct: It is harder regarding getting a 20 man group.

How would you do that, you get proportionally less loot and less ilvl in the vault at the end of the week. Don’t see the point in raiding at all in shadowlands.

M+ loot should never been equal to raid gear first place. So it is nice to see that game is finally starting to move on right direction. And raiding is harder than m+, because more you have people less impactful your actions are. If today we had solo raiding the good players would be on the top, but good player among 19 bad players is not going to be on top.

push. characters

shadowlands is a raiding expansion. blizzard is just listening to streamers and youtubers who THINK they know everything, but in actuality, the only thing they know is their own opinion and elitism.
and they listen to these people


the game system was at its best during BFA. people may not like some content, but it was still perfect for raiders, dungeons, pvp and ‘other’. everyone had equal opportunity and a way to play in their own boundries of fun.
now its “raid or nothing, you hate raiding ? too bad.”

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Such an unpopular opinion, but my god do I agree. It gave you an incentive to do lower keys with friends.

im sorry, but its not an opinion. its a fact. this expansion caters for raiders and wealthy players.

The more ppl hit ilvl >200 the more they understand.

give back master loot aswell :stuck_out_tongue:

People can have the gear and you the skill, why does it matter a noob have better gear than a mythic raider? He do not know how to use it but it clearly makes you more butt hurt rather than enjoy his happiness.

M+ would work much better with a self contained horizontal progression, ie, M+ tier set or effects that work only in M+.

Vertical progression + multiple progression paths don’t work, one path will always be the one of least resistance and end up devaluing the others, game design 101.

OP, are you unholy DK PVP? Cause you’re trying to summon abomination


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I don’t want titanforging back.

None of my ilvl 200+ friends do either.

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I don’t want that abomination back, thanks. Worst loot system besides corruptions, can stay in the garbage can where it belongs.

M+ is not meant to be an infinite gear pool
 The biggest rewards come in the form of the weekly vault, and that’s the way it should be. Mythic+ is already an extremely potent way to gear. You do not need titanforging so you can just spam dungeons over and over again until you’re 230 ilvl.

PS: I do higher keys than you, probably more than you, and also am higher ilvl than you, so don’t say that you can’t disagree with your argument if you’re geared


Please refrain from assuming what m+ is ment for.

Aren’t you doing the exact same thing?

i want tf back for m+ and raid