I still do not understand

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I do not say that nostalgia is wrong but nostalgia is a step backwards…

Back in the days expansions like the wrath of the lich king where wonderful inventions, nowadays most people would agree with me when I say that the wow expansions are rather insipid.
It is comfortable to hide in the past, it is nice to remember good times but it is never productive…

What you do is to encourage some laidback developers to do as little work as possible, when they actually should do some brainstorming for new inventions.

That is how we evolve, by taking the next step.

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What happens with all developments of evolving digital products…

At some point: They make them perfect, spot on, could not be better.
But they have to keep their jobs and keep working. So they sit thinking “how can we improve this?” only they can’t. So all that happens is they downgrade, devolve, destroy what used to be good.

I don’t get nostalgic either, it is quite a peculiar concept to me.
But what they should do, is work out what they had right and change some things back to how they had them, right.

So what is the difference between playing Classic and playing main stream “retail” BfA WoW up to level 60?

"Blizzard changed some starting zones a little… The only real significant changes are the Loot modes, the talents, spells and talent tree and the user interface. "

That is just about all the difference, as I said in my topic here…
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/critical-review-division-is-destruction/
…which nobody can be bothered to read because it is so big xD
But my topic isn’t just about Classic so I am not trying to hijack this thread. I just think this point is relevant here too.

Blizzard need to put those listed things back to how they were, (except the interface, which is better now) - for the next expansion, else lose a great deal of players from “retail” WoW.

Except it is not free, we all paid for it.

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I both videos you’re walking tf you expected from moving ?

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please not. The original sw trilogy is better than the new ones cuz the new ones are crap (except episode 3). In star wars there is a problem of quality. Here in wow not.

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It’s called ‘WoW Classic’ lad, ‘WoW Classic’… :slightly_smiling_face:

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Because gaming is not about visuals…

Runescape anyone? Hell, even fortnite is visual the best.

It’s about gameplay and content. Mind blowing isn’t it…

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Because you want to, and if you don’t… that’s okay too.

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You didn’t pay more then you would have if they hadn’t released classic.

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“I don’t understand why other people play what they like and not what I like” = the thread.

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You presumably only want to play Classic, so you’ll never see it as free… that’s on you.

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I will tyvm

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1 - Nobody force you to play Classic.

2 - Their is crap ton of old games played to this day, new tech doesn’t necessarily mean better games ( they are X example of modern game with good graphics etc but souless ).

3 - Ppl got different taste what’s wrong with that.

4 - So with your logic ppl should stop collecting old car because their are old.

5 - Flawed logic of a late millenial

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I think the comments about blizzard having not released classic and put the effort into a better expansion is a lovely thought. But the difference between the two games is so vast now that you couldnt release anything that satisfied both factions.

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basically nostalgia.

or if you hate yourself and/or love spending hours and hours, leveling to 60. And much much longer, if you’re in a high populated pvp server.

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Character progression, something retail does not have. You know when you pick up a green item and you see that one int or stamina on there and you can see the difference immediatly. Meanwhile 100ilvl further on retail and my character is still vomit. Also everything you do, you do on your time, no retarded timegating and forcing to play only one way. I dont expect for people to understand who find staying afk in cities while waiting for your world quest and queue timers better then an actual mmorpg with progression.

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Imagine actually posting what you posted without a shred of sarcasm. “Todays standards.” like WoW in its current form is some sort of gaming phenomenon and not just a bunch of clinger ons who now have nowhere to go and are too attached to their habitual need to log into their characters and complete their daily chores.

Please, there is a reason the bar chart is going down not up when it comes to subs and it isn’t anything to do with “Todays standards.” COS WE ALL LOVE LOOTBOXES MAAAAAAAAAAAATE. Get over yourself.

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That really was an extraordinarily large effect.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/09/03/will-world-of-warcraft-classic-rejuvenate-activisi.aspx

World of Warcraft: Classic set a launch day record for the number of concurrent viewers on Twitch, the Amazon.com platform where video game aficionados watch other gamers play via live-stream. On that first day, more than 6.1 million unique viewers tuned in, with as many as 1.1 million watching the proceedings at the same time.

https://www.fool.com/news/2019/09/04/core-franchises-earn-activision-blizzard-an-analys.aspx

Shares of video game giant Activision Blizzard have crashed over the past year, but the former growth stockmade up some of that lost ground on Wednesday thanks to an analyst upgrade. The stock had gained about 4.6% by 2 p.m. EDT.

Analyst Gerrick Johnson at BMO Capital Markets upped his rating on Activision to outperform and raised his price target on the video game stock from $43 to $60. The upgrade was driven by a few factors, including the popularity of World of Warcraft Classic , a rerelease of the original version of the popular subscription-based game. Johnson raised his outlook for World of Warcraft subscribers from 3 million to 5.4 million for 2020.

That article cites 4.6%, but I believe the peak was 8%. Admittedly, bumps are bumps, but that was an extraordinary effect for the re-launch of a 15-year-old game from Blizzard on the collective value of Blizzard, Activision, and King.

I mean, a stock bump like that is really good news for the senior executives. Like the current President, who thought he didn’t want it but finds he now does. :stuck_out_tongue:

The vast majority of WoW players have left. Many inevitably fell off over time, of course, but a lot of that was because this was no longer they game they remembered, no longer the game they wanted to play, driven by a change in philosophy they nether liked nor understood.

Maybe the only way to get the WoW people remember back is to faithfully re-create it up to the point where everybody can compare the two side-by-side.

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So, you prefer to do the same quest over and over again instead of unique one time quests? That’s stupid if you ask me…

I personally prefer retail for a different reasons:
It’s actually hard if you want it to be
and the combat is more fluid.

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In current WoW, many aspects of the game are different. In Classic you are forced to socialize more by walking instead of flying and look for man in trade chat. Profesions and class trainers were used and mattered more.

In BFA, spells look flashy, graphics look gorgeous and end game content is what matters. User interface let’s you access the PvP and PvE content much easier.

It all boils down to personal preference. The game has changed so much that we can call them seperate games at this point. So, pick your poison. :slight_smile:

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what alot of people like me don’t like with current wow.

the rng in gear.
the lack of danger in the world.
the lack of social in the games.
a false sense of progression(azerite power,essence etc).
everything is about end games.
blizzard trying to push the esport.

what i like about classic.

gear do not wf/tf and we have bis.
the social aspect of it.
server identity.
the sense of danger in the world(not pulling 3000 mob and not dying).
the games don’t force you into the end games.
not completing a dungeon in 15 minute.