Rogue has won the AWC in every single AWC since S1 of SL… The tool kit is far to extreme and whether it’s outlaw, Assassination or Sub, we always have one massively overtuned spec and the reason why is you keep giving them comparable burst/damage whilst having the best none damage breaking CC, or you give them so much survival that as long as they don’t make a mistake you eventually lose…
Cheat Death ← Prune it
Cheap Shot ← Give it a 5 second cool-down so you cannot spam it
Cool-Down reset ability or reduction should not effect Vanish, Evasion or Cloak.
Shadowmeld should put Vanish on a 45 second cool-down similar to trinket does to Will to Survive
What, you think Cloak Evasion, Evasion itself, Smoke Bomb, Shadowy Duel, 2x Shadow Dances, 2x Shadowsteps ontop of the best melee CC toolkit aswell as crazy amount of burst is too much?
Not sure where you got that idea, Rogues are fine.
Edit: Forgot even to mention 2x Vanish that reduce the cooldowns ontop of it. My bad. Class has so little to offer.
just finished a shuffle where the sub rogue won 5 games
just waited for any trinket by anyone, and presses all his toolkit
shadowduel, stun, oneshott burst, press immunities to be 100%
i mean are rogues trying to flex how they have THE BEST toolkit in each and every single aspect, that they gotta press it all at once to express how braindead their design is?
the BEST burst
the BEST control
the BEST immunities
dude we frkn get it. your parents didnt love you. yuck
I have been saying this for years. Rogue has the best defenses in the game, the best cc in the game and one of the best burst in the game.
Their toolkit is so darn overloaded and yet they manage to make the community and devs believe they are not S tier.
I have nothing but hatred for rogue players. Because this class is the bane of my wow experience since vanilla
I think it is time to roll back the game to when mage had one blink, warrior had one charge. Remove a charge of fel rush. Remove a charge of death grip etc for all classes. Lock only has gate or circle.
The mobility of this game have gone to far. Ban addons from wow totally and then they can finally make proper pve aswell. There are so many beautiful sounds in this game such a shame they are littered with bicycle horns and alarms.
I don’t agree with banning addons. There’s too many quality of life in them.
Though I do agree to ban addons that basically tell you how to play the game
Since like BFA there is no reason anymore to play anything other than Rogue or maybe Mage. Playing any other DPS class is basically playing WoW in hardmode.
Rogue has like infinite get out of jail cards and if you fail the 598545 go you can casually walk away while the enemy is slowed 200% and then just vanish and reset at your leisure.
Of course its also immune to nerfs, worse they get is a slap after slap on the wrist until the season ends where they are a little bit balanced until after a week with a new season and then rinse and repeat.
these are not bad ideas, but there are not only sub and outlaw rogues in the game. there is the assa. we don’t have shadow dance, 2 cheap shots yes if there is shadowmeld. the fact is they can/can do a lot of cross cc. but assa is a different spec, if we didn’t have veil pvp talent, we have no chance against double meele as assa, for example.
Don’t get me wrong I absolutely despise when the game has some broken CDR or gimicky one-shot mechanics but you guys on here are crying for the sake of crying.
Yeah it doesn’t always “work” so it would be great if they could fix it.
Idk if racials are good for PvP anyways…
It is just so funny to me that the “most broken class that wins every game” has 3% representation in both 3v3 and solo shuffle and people who complain about rogues have never played rogues themselves…
Vanish should be okay. Cloak bubble evasion should be okay. Meld should be okay. Step duel should be okay. Vanish in 10 should be okay. What is cooldown never heard of it. Lemme slow everyone by 99% just by my existance LMAO these noobs I am owning.
Every global pressed on a rogue is officially a waste of a global no matter what class you play. Same applies to a mage.
If at least they took off the seat belts from vanish and it had a chance to break It’s unreal how rtrdproof rogue toolkit is since It’s existance.
EDIT: Inb4 rogue appears with a presentation of how under represented rogues are in a clown bracket and in a game that has the LOWEST amount of active players for the past 15 years. You can literally count pvprs on two hands.
the thing is ur representation argument means squat, when we saw outlaw winning awc which was the least populated spec other than arcane before awc. representation dont mean a spec is good/bad at the highest levels its just about popularity/ez of play.
