I tried Dragonflight, it's not Warcraft

I received a free 3 days trial to play a Drac’thyr. I did the introduction zone, needless to say I am not impressed. It does not feel like Warcraft at all, I’ve been feeling like that since Shadowlands but this time I truly feel it.

I’ve been playing this game for over a decade, loved the Warcraft franchise so much that I went back and bought Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 to play them, because the franchise interested me so much.

But that interest is fading, it’s almost gone.
I am not tired of the Warcraft franchise of a decade ago, as I am thankful that Blizzard allowed us to play Classic during this trial aswell; for that I am grateful.

I think the best way for me to describe World of Warcraft of today is whimsical.
I know there are people that are going to tell me right now that Warcraft was always like that, but I think they’re wrong.

I think the best way to describe the difference between the Blizzard of today and the Blizzard that I loved is best used in the following example:

In Diablo 3 you had a hidden level in the game, where an area was unlocked. This area was called “whimsyshire”, a colourful level full with rainbows, teddybears, unicorns and pink flowers.

And you can just waltz through this level murdering, slaughtering everything. Blizzard didn’t hold back, limbs flying everywhere, blood spraying all over the ground. All the cute teddybears, unicorns and pink flowers got sent flying in the air with their limbs or heads torn off.

The Blizzard of today wouldn’t even dare to add a level like that, instead, they would be part of the storyline in a friendly matter, with a lot “quirky” interactions from them.
And yeah, Diablo is a +16 franchise at that time. But Warcraft had equal of grim and edgy moments like that plenty in the game and part of the storyline. The scars of Sinestra, the road of glory in Hellfire Peninsula, the Troll in Nagrand that eats babies, and on and on.

Sorry for drifting off, I just felt the point to make that statement because I’ve seen people trying to paint a different narrative that’s simply not true.
And I feel part of these people are doing that because of the new guard that has taken hold over Blizzard and that their views on life are similar to the devs, so they feel the need to protect them.

I don’t want to press on into that.
I do want to add another form of criticism towards the dialogue in this game.
The dialogue in this game doesn’t feel organic.
The cinematics were a bore, and sometimes felt odd. The only cinematic that was good was the one where Khadgar interacts with Kalecgos.

The rest of the cinematics and ingame voiced conversations feel like a social media conversation.
The dialogue between Lor’themar and Thalyssra is a good example of this.

Have you guys heard about the drama with Henry Cavill, how the producers of the Witcher show were trying to paint him as an incel, a toxic gamer, a misogynist, all because he wanted to stick true to the source material?
Have you guys heard the producers and writers of the Witcher series actually hate the franchise as a whole, and are rewriting certain things to reflect their view on life?

That’s exactly how I feel with World of Warcraft nowadays, and the so called devs that have only a few years or months of their CV at Blizzard but are claiming it’s “their” game now.

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You didn’t play DF, you tried the Evoker starting area and judged the rest of expansion on that… Sorry but I cannot take you seriously.
DF has been the most Warcraft thing we have had in a while some of the best written side stories we have ever had in this game. Yes I can agree that there is some cringe doalogue here or there and some really spotty acting but this expansion runs miles ahead of SL and BfA combined.

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I can relate to the OP story 100%.

And yes, I’ve made it to 70 and did some M+s . This is not Warcraft anymore. From characters, npcs to story and atmosphere.

The 60-70 leveling experience was the worst i’ve ever experienced in WoW. It has zero connection to the zones and the main NPCs. The story is like BfA or Shadowlands but on a “supreme” level. You jump from point A to point B on your dragon and barely put foot on the ground, which is pathetic. It takes the immersion of the world!

Adding …playable dragons to the game, from my point of view, was also, one of the worst decisions ever. I am very curios to see the how many plays this class/char.

Are you serious or trolling at this point?! How is DF the most Warcraft thing we had in a…while?! Go into details please.

Also, the content in DF is…actually what content? All you do is M+ . That’s it. There is zero new content in DF. Zero!

It will go down faster than Shadowlands. Hence, the reason why is been more then 1 month and we still don’t have the sales of the expansion.

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I know the feeling
Sometimes i play an alt and level him through the cata zones/classic zones and i just feel like the quests are so much more simple, enjoyable and interesting than the ones in DF, i just can’t take anything serious in DF, don’t get me wrong, i love humor in quests, but not quite this new one, i always found more funny the old Blizzard humor, like from Rambo’s quests in redridge and the goblin starting zone.
Im enjoying the expansion, but the quests have been meh for me since Shadowlands.
One of the problems might be the voice acting, there is too much voice acting and cutscenes in the quests, focus more in the quests dialogue and the characters, they are far more important.

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You just cant accept people like different things.

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I can … if they come up with details. Saying is the most Warcraft thing we had in a while … its a very vague remark, because I see almost zero Warcraft thing in DF.

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I can confirm after playing the game, that it is in fact World of Warcraft

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but you cant be convinced. You say always “wow sucks” so that’s it.
It would be just a waste of time.

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The most warcraft feeling to me is the classic Alliance vs Horde expansion, with the orc clans and the black dragons, with the scourge and the Argent Cruzade, with the old Highborne ruins, the Old gods and the Titans along with Blizzards classic humour.
That is Warcraft for me.

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Cool story.

Whilst it’s true that Warcraft has changed alot over the years. It’s still very much Warcraft at the end of the day.

You’ve changed, the games changed. It’s not for you anymore, that’s fine.

(P.s. you’ve escaped!!!)

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I never said WoW sucks. WoW doesn’t sucks. BfA, Shadowlands sucks yes. DF sucks, yes indeed. WoW as a game, doesn’t.

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yes you always say wotlk was great. but ages are passed. modern wow wont be anymore as was 13 years ago.
Fortunately ill add.

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Yes, WoTLK was amazing ( still is in Classic ). TBC too. Vanilla also amazing.

But I put Legion in the same exact spot as WoTLK. This are the best 2 expansions ever from my POV. So … that’s not 13 years ago. See? The …age is not the problem, but the people behind WoW, in this case Ion Hazzikostas , which has managed to release 3 of the worst WoW expansions ever … in a row!

Its a first!

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Matter of perspective. You can both be right, from your own perspective

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It feels more warcrafty to me because war mode is popping off again. Yesterday I parked my mount in the most abandoned area I could find thinking nobody would spot me. Within a second a rogue popped out and beat the living crap out of me. Now that’s Warcraft.

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For you. But did you play 1 mins in DF or are you just assuming from the forum?
Legion was ages ago as well.

for sure. but i never say: " wow is entirely good". it has A LOT of problems. Sayin “wow is entirely bad” not playin it its a little… childish?

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Ok sure, pretty much right of the bat we are dealing with restoring the Dragon aspects powers and we are fighting elemental infused enemies and “evil” shamans. Now I know what you are going to say “pff that doesn’t make Warcraft what it is”, ok sure, but consider what we were doing in BfA fighting a “faction war” beyond the borders of either faction with laser tanks and super mechs… What did we do in SL, we were helping Vampires, Smurfs with wings, weird furry fairies and undead stop an evil robot reach a cosmic 3D printer that can create universes. Out of the 3, yes helping dragons and fighting proto-drakes feels way more like WoW than laser tanks and 3D printers (although I will admit that there is a slight continuation of that plot line in DF which I find unfortunate).

But that was just the main story, the really good parts are actually in the side stories, the 2 notable ones being the dwarf/dragon stay awhile and listen questline where he laments the start of the war between the aspects and him missing his friend which he had to kill in order to protect his flight, and the old remorseful orc from the Dragonmaw clan wanting to see the Dragon Isles despite what he did to them when he was part of said clan because he wanted to see Dragons living free and happy. Some of the stories in DF have some very deep cuts into lore predating even WoW and don’t feel retconned in (and again unfortunately we do have retcons but not on the level of Zovaal). However if you are one of the people believes that the only way WoW can be Warcraft is via a faction war then yes DF will not feel like WC.

Which I found way more immersive and fun than having to slog through “difficult” terrain and fighting through densely packed mobs. To each their own but I prefer flying any day of the week.

Idk man I have been begging my friends for a few nights to take a break from M+ and raiding for a few days because I wanted to continue doing my open world content and rep grinds.

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I feel you. At the moment I find wrath classic much more interesting and engaging than DF. I played DF for couple weeks, tried a bit of m+ and raid. Everything is ok with the content, it’s new, it’s cool, but as you say - it feels less and less as warcraft we fell in love with.

BUT. The game have to evolve and move forward. You can’t stay in one place for 20+ years. Modern game makes good changes (new talent system, professions overhaul, AH, etc.). I wish modern AH was in classic… :slight_smile:

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Yep problem is that there is actualy lot of people what likes things what have absolutly no busines in mmorpg game. So yeah you mihg like it but doesnt mean it should be in the game becouse it completly goes againts fundamentals aspects what makes mmorpg game an mmorpg game.

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Oh you mean things like parasitic systems (which you like)?

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