Idea: Reintroduce AOTC Mounts

What are AOTC mounts?
MoP and every expansion after had a mount reward for defeating the last boss of the expansion on Heroic before the next expansion went live.

These mounts do not carry a lot of prestige (you can buy a boost for them for 50-100k usually), but do look great, and if you didn’t play back during those expansions, you can’t get them again.

I would like for these mounts to be reintroduced, after the following expansion has passed. With Shadowlands finished now, that would mean the Uncorrupted Voidwing mount could be reintroduced, and the ones that came before it.

How could you reintroduce them?
There are a few options. Trading Post is the easiest one, but personally, I find that boring. These mounts had to obtained while current, and although relatively cheap, still required you to do a raid. So… why not do that again?

Introducing: Remembering the (…)
Similar to Herald of the Titans, this would require you to have:

  • The level cap of the Expansion that raid was in (SL 60 BFA 50, Legion 45, WoD 40, MoP 35)
  • An item level similar to what raiders would’ve worn back then (Prob inbetween normal and HC ilvl) and it has to be gear from that expansion.
  • No player with a higher level/ilvl may be present and chromie time must be disabled.

There would be a version of this achievement for every raid that gave an AOTC mount.

  • Remembering the True Warchief = SoO = Kor’kron War Wolf
  • Remembering the Iron Horde = HFC = Grove Warden
  • Remembering the Legion = Antorus = Violet Spellwing
  • Remembering the Old Gods = Ny’alotha = Uncorrupted Voidwing
  • Remembering the First Ones = Sepulcher = Carcinized Zerethsteed

And if this idea is a success, it could even be further expanded on with other, older raids, with different rewards, like other removed prestige mounts (black proto drake, Trial of Crusader horses) or titles, toys, etc.

  • Remembering the Scourge = Classic Naxx
  • Remembering the Sunwell = Sunwell
  • Remembering the Lich King = ICC
  • Remembering the Worldbreaker = DS

If we want to keep it to mounts, these older raids could also be a great way to introduce high res models of existing, popular mounts. Naxx could give us a new proto drake. The Sunwell could give us an updated Ashes of Al’ar phoenix. ICC could give an updated Frostwyrm. DS could give an updated Twilight drake.

One small problem:
Trinkets, Legendaries and Tier sets from these expansions have been deactivated so they cannot be exploited. These items would need to be reactivated in these raids. Perhaps with a trigger of “If more than 5 people at level x are in Raid, no one at 70, activate”
Ofcourse I understand we can’t bring N’Zoth Corruptions or Artifact Abilities back, so we’ll just have to deal with that loss.

Why is this better than just putting these mounts on the Trading Post, or BMAH?
Simply to let old content not be wasted, and let people experience these raids properly again. Maybe not in their prime, but something similar to it.

End of expansion raids are some of the most fun and well designed raids in WoW and it is sad that the only way to experience them at the moment, is by running them for transmog, where you oneshot everything.

Back during the 15th anniversary we had an event where you could do sections of the Lich King, Heigan and… Ragnaros(?) fights. This was extremely well liked, and another reason why I think adding these achievements would be prefered over the Trading Post and BMAH. People want to do these raids in their prime. And those people likely also missed out on these AOTC mounts!

Conclusion:
I think adding these achievements, along with these old mounts and potential new rewards, would be well liked by collectors. They were never as prestigious as Mythic or PVP mounts, and adding rewards behind challenging content is always good.
Meanwhile, we recycle these old raids, and along with that a lot of the content of these expansions becomes relevant again during the gearing progress. Maybe people will farm Arcanocrystals from Withered Jim again? :joy:

What do you think about this? Would you rather see these mounts stay gone, be added back like this, or would you prefer to buy them for Tenders or Gold?

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Ok, but only if they drop the ball and reintroduce all FOMO with time badge currency or other ways including elite pvp tier sets available through the tokens, that we can buy the glorious mounts with or just conquest after being a certain rating currently.

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Unfortunately, I don’t have those mounts (MoP). I was very busy with RL things during that time. And no, it is a bad idea to reintroduce AOTC mounts.

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No need to re-introduce old stuff, just put the work into earning the current rewards of the game. That should fill up your time more than enough.

Please stop making these Toxic threads.

What if they get brought back with time walking with the original difficulty, and also not every time the same raids? This will make it rare still, and give people a good reason to jump into time walking. Challenge mode MoP timewalking can also be a thing.

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The challenge will be different because of how Classes are tuned now.

The only way you’ll get the Challenge to be the same or even remotely similar is through Classic servers, which… oh wait Classic servers exist and you can collect rewards there.

I would just wait until MoP Classic comes around, shouldn’t be too long.

No, ok? No. Those mounts were limited-time in-game achievement mounts. You should come to the game during the given time and get them, it is not important how you will do it, but you should. Because they carry prestige unlike OP claimed.

what a bunch of orc slime… Mage tower challenges did not get less hard due to our new abilities. It’s all a scaling thing. I asked some people, and they said it’s the same difficulty, or sometimes it feels harder to them. One guy said it’s slightly easier, but maybe he was worse at the game back then.
On the contrary, even if some mechanics were a little easier, it doesn’t matter. Why gatekeep so hard, just bc it’s like 3% easier randomly, because u can answer some mechanic with a new ability…

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The Mage Tower challenges are different though because the Abilities are different. Just like how the MT Challenges changed from SL to DF because of the change in Abilities and Talents.

Please stop being toxic. Just accept these are gone and not coming back.

Definitely not gold… in that case we’d be charged millions for it.

But tenders? Count me in. These are more than worth 900 tenders, or even could be the monthly rewards.

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There will never be a MoP classic nothing past WotLK is classic

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you’re not the one to decide that lol cata classic is coming , go cry in classic forums

With how much of a failure WotLK classic is u can only dream about cata classic

the idea of classic is just about re-living the past expansions for some nostalgia, you guys are thinking too much of it just experience it let it go

If u want to experience Cata and onward they’re still on retail there’s no point in basically repeating WoW all over people wanted Classic because it’s gone from retail forever

And it’s not true people aren’t in classic just for nostalgia real classic aka era is growing now and people are coming back to it even though it won’t get any updates

wotlk and tbc are both in retail too but their classic versions released soo your point is ?

TBC and WotLK classic still have the classic world while Cata/retail doesn’t

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heh, i got mine from LFR… didnt even loot the boss it came in the mail
i am glorious LFR raider clearing toughest battles :smiley:

the world has 0 effect on wotlk or tbc gameplay tho so your point doesn’t make any sense either way. if you want to play vanilla forever then do it but don’t tel people whether cata or mop will be classic or not. it’s not your decision

If u want to believe that feel free but there’s nothing classic about cata onward it’s the start of modern wow we have today

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