Nope. Quit reading Golden’s crap.
There could be void paladins
Light paladin dies - bye bye conection with light .
Resurect as undead - welcome void paladin
We are safe , void undead paladins icc
Wrong. Priests pray to god and turn water into wine.
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thats really not much to work with…
so i guess still undead melees are unrelistic
we need that spell in game
mage makes water - priest makes booze
profit
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The undead can have all sorts of stuff that lets them be tougher even more than the a living guy given that they can actually reattach lost limbs for example. I don’t see gnomes growing longer arms and smaller heads when they enter battle.
Because everyone can pick up a sword and whack someone in the head with it? It’s a very basic class.
With Paladins it’s more of an active choice. Do we want a Paladin order within our race? Do we have the training to support it? Are there people who would take up the mantle of becoming Paladin?
I think it’s perfectly fair if Blizzard’s story writers decide that some races shouldn’t have a story that supports a Paladin order with renowned Paladin characters, because that may not be the focus and direction for that race. Night Elves are a good example. They could have Paladins, but it’s just not how their armies are structured. And tradition has a thing to say as well.
Just because something can be it doesn’t mean it has to be. And in terms of story i don’t think every race has to have its own Paladin order.
A warrior is simply a martial expert. Nothing about warrior implies you have to be a bodybuilder.
That all races can be warriors is largely a limitation of representation of mechanics in game. There’s plenty of background in gnome warriors who use their racial aptitude for analysis and nimble frames to dodge melee blows, make mathematically calculated strikes to counterweight their opponents and fell them with precise blows. Mekkatorque is a warrior, you know, the racial leader of the gnomes.
It’s just the game doesn’t show this, because it would be incredibly time consuming to programme every warrior stance differently. I mean do you honestly think even tauren warriors weather blows from dragons that are twenty times their size by just standing there and going “ooof” when the dragon smacks them with their claws? I think not. Yet that’s what the game shows.
All races have martial aspects to their culture thus warriors are suitable for all races. Hell, the gnomes deploy more visible military personnel in soldier, spy, guard roles than do Draenei and Draenei are several times their size and built like fridges. The idea that Gnomes are averse to getting up close and personal or fighting in melee is laughable. They just happen to be very good at ranged, magical and tricky combat, but they’re not afraid of melee combat. As said, they deploy more visible troops than several alliance races built far bigger than they are and several sources confirm they’re extremely brave and plucky in the face of danger.
If you’re looking for small race that is cowardly and all “don’t hit the face” then goblins are your guys. Several examples of them in game whining when you finally “have them” and trying to wriggle out of danger despite the fact they’re stronger than gnomes and larger.
This is one thing I really like with FF14, you’re an adventurer. And as such you can be what ever you want to be, on the same character. Have a white mage and want to be a black mage? No problem. Want to be a ninja or a paladin instead? Go for it.
One major pet grievance I have with WoW now, is that you’re the blood goody champion that the world can’t live without. And they remind you every 2 second that you’re the goody champion that will save the world. And if it’s been 3 seconds that they’ve gone without saying you’re the goody champion, they have to have a 20 minute cut scene telling just how much of a goody champion you are.
Being a warrior means you have to excel in melee combat. To do that you need to have a physical advantage, size, strength, speed. Which gnoams don’t have. You want to bs me about how something that resembles a toddler with a huge head can be a warrior, feel free, does not mean I have to buy it.
Do you? Since when?
If that’s the case, how can forsaken be warriors given they have no living muscle mass to power their swings? I don’t care if they can theoretically stitch big limbs on, they still have dead muscle matter and besides the game doesn’t show it. So if we’re going by what the game literally shows you, it makes no sense for them to be warriors. They’re slower to move, lack muscle strength, cannot build muscle mass and their bodies are extremely fragile when faced with blunt trauma. Sounds like an equally crap premise for a warrior to me.
Or we could just accept there’s more to a warrior than “me smash”. Ever heard of the Gurkhas? Indian-Nepalese soldiers recruited by the British Army. They tend to be on the short side and slighter in build than typical British soldiers. They’re also well known for their extreme competence and deadliness when deployed in the past.
I’m sorry, but in a world where a 6ft human can “tank” a 30 ft dragon, the idea that combat is literally a size game is hilarious.
Oh so you want to get scientifical now? Cause if we are, then Gnomes couldn’t bloody walk with those heads on their shoulders. Not to mention that undead shouldn’t be fighting or even walking around cause, you know, they are dead.
What you are trying to talk about is the short and stout trope that is well covered by dwarves and goblins. Gnomes don’t qualify. They are for people who find them amusing, I don’t know why you are trying to make them into some big deal. The gnomes are a joke and nothing more.
Im not trying to make out gnomes are top end warriors, or badass, I’m literally disputing the claim “they shouldn’t be warriors”. Because I think that’s frankly based on Real Life nonsense that if you accept you have to accept a ton of other stuff couldn’t be true either. I brought up forsaken not because I believe that, but to show how applying real life to things is dumb, and that’s what your reasoning is based upon. Nothing in game shows gnomes are averse to melee combat or training soliders, there’s several examples of both.
So which is it? Real life applies or not? Can’t have both.
It just seems super dumb to say “they’re too short” in a game where pod people the size of your foot can end up killing you, or where we weather blow after blow from ogres and remain standing. Just seems like an arbitrary invocation of real life principles to slam gnomes but not apply it elsewhere.
As said, in game lore nods to several gnome warriors and them having aspects of militaristic behaviour amongst them. So you really need to look past the “but they’re tiny” thing unless you take up similar issue with every time your character has taken a melee hit from a monster three times your size and just kinda grunted.
No, you are actually the Warrior of Light, which is even more cringe than Champion of Azeroth.
“Warrior of light” is actually just an empty title. Don’t know if you’ve played “Shadowbringer” but it turns the whole thing up-side down. And also, in “The first” you’re referred to as “Warrior of Darkness”, which is more an honorific than an actual title. In the end you’re just an adventurer, one of many.
Priests are not paladins though. Priests devout themselves to worship of divine entities like Elune, An’she, the August Celestials or the Loa. Even evil ones like the void ect.
Paladins believe in the light and are empowered by it. A few of alliance races worship the light, so paladins and priest are close in that terms. But pandaren, mag’har orc, tauren, night elves, trolls ect do not believe in the light, but still can be preists.
Which is why I don’t understand tauren paladins, but I’ve been told they are not paladins, just hindered by class choice, they are sunwalkers.
Orc paladin would be stupid imo. Just like bloodelf druid would be weird too.
My feelings
They wouldn’t even be bottom end warriors, to be honest. And yeah they shouldn’t be warriors as they are. Fantasy can only get you so far. I’m more willing to believe that some undead monster can do the stuff without falling apart cause of evil magic than I’m willing to believe that an infant with a huge head can fight cause… what? Gnome will magic or something? I believe I can fly and so I fly? I’m not certain.
And maybe you weren’t listening when I brought up dwarves. Cause it’s not just about being short. It’s about having a physique of a toddler and the head of ET… and being really shot. At least if they were huge they could crush stuff with their enormous skulls. But they are not. And while this is a fantasy game, thinking gnomes are physically fit to be anything else than laborers is past my ability to fantasize. Sorry, you’ll just have to accept that not everyone thinks gnomes are awesome and can do anything.
incorrect, there are multiple Holy and Disc forsaken
Just add Yrel’s homicidal light crusade faction as a third faction then everybody can be paladin.
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