If alliance stop being cowards WM would be balanced.

I have always played on an RP/PVE server, so the fact that they now make it so I can play under PVP rules is not suddenly going to make me want to play on PVP rules, the fact that they give you a small % bonus and a few extra abilities to do that and use in PVE is meaningless If I wanted to PVP I would have always joined a PVP server. And if I want to PVP i`ll just go play a game where player v player is half decent and fun and that’s not WOW.
Maybe if Horde stopped !@#$%^-*ing every single Allianceplayer just trying to finish a mob, more would turn WarMode back on.

I never understood that. I would never attack a Hordeplayer while he is busy fighting mobs. I wait till he is finished, then I bow, then the fight begins.

Must be the DarkSouls-PvPer in me.
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13/09/2018 13:36Posted by Leìsha
13/09/2018 13:14Posted by Reddan
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Clear example of why the problem is faction mentality rather than number imbalance.


Well excuse me princess for wanting to enjoy the game in a manner of my choosing.


I'm not saying you shouldn't. But people are missing the fact that horde dominate the overworld not because of faction population imbalance. They do just because the faction is more focused on this aspect and alliance on peacefully farming quests/herbs.
Maybe if Horde's response to any fair 1v1 wasn't "Better open group finder and call in a raid group against this guy kicking my !@# solo" more Alliance would have WM on.

Just a thought.
13/09/2018 13:25Posted by Tèqila

And also acording to realm pop and blizzard statet this multiple times that the EU has more ally players then horde.
that is a complete BS.
because that counts every single character ever created. including all alts and trial characters ever made. it also counts characters from accounts that have been inactive for more than 10 years and stuff like that.

blizzard likes to inflate player numbers.
13/09/2018 13:48Posted by Ilyadris
Maybe if Horde's response to any fair 1v1 wasn't "Better open group finder and call in a raid group against this guy kicking my !@# solo" more Alliance would have WM on.

Just a thought.


oh come on, this happens on both sides - you don't play Horde so you clearly don't know,

if you don't play horde thats fine - but don't assume you know how it is for us here

in war there is no 'fair' - there is no 1v1
13/09/2018 13:25Posted by Tèqila
No one forced Horde players to have Warmode ON if anthing Aliance was always the pvp faction.


I have no idea how you came to that conclusion xD

Never heard that
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13/09/2018 13:49Posted by Pivke
13/09/2018 13:25Posted by Tèqila

And also acording to realm pop and blizzard statet this multiple times that the EU has more ally players then horde.
that is a complete BS.
because that counts every single character ever created. including all alts and trial characters ever made. it also counts characters from accounts that have been inactive for more than 10 years and stuff like that.

blizzard likes to inflate player numbers.


Okay, so what data do you posess that implies Alliance has vastly more alts and trial characters and inactive accounts than Horde?
13/09/2018 13:11Posted by Reddan


If all of them just turned warmode on the odds might actually be even or in their favor, they just decide not to.


Last time I checked I was the one paying for my subscription.
Not you.

I made a conscious decision way back, when I started in vanilla to play on a "PvE" realm, and I will -not- be bullied or otherwise to participate in PvP.
I don't give a damn about the crappy PvP in this game.

The fact they removed a lot of these "realm limitations" to be able to push forward their failure named "War Mode" is not my problem.
If you don't like it deal with it, or go play Fortnite or Call of Duty or whatever pvp crap kids play these days.
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13/09/2018 14:02Posted by Avariya
13/09/2018 13:11Posted by Reddan


If all of them just turned warmode on the odds might actually be even or in their favor, they just decide not to.


Last time I checked I was the one paying for my subscription.
Not you.

I made a conscious decision way back, when I started in vanilla to play on a "PvE" realm, and I will -not- be bullied or otherwise to participate in PvP.
I don't give a damn about the crappy PvP in this game.

The fact they removed a lot of these "realm limitations" to be able to push forward their failure named "War Mode" is not my problem.
If you don't like it deal with it, or go play Fortnite or Call of Duty or whatever pvp crap kids play these days.


So abrasive. The poster was stating fact - Alliance players complain about imbalance but factually, the imbalance is caused by Alliance players. Therefore, Alliance players complaining about imbalance and blaming it on Blizzard having a faction bias or whatever their favourite reason is this moment should in fact be blaming other Alliance players, not Blizzard, not the Horde.

Nobody is telling *you personally* that *you personally* have to play with war mode on, least of all the person you quoted. They merely stated that factually the imbalance is caused your own faction and nobody else.

Thanks for trying, though.
Here's a thought then, maybe this should've been posted in the appropriate forum instead of general?
Since apparently this "only concerns" the portion that plays "Warmode".
There's a special forum for that.
13/09/2018 14:09Posted by Avariya
Here's a thought then, maybe this should've been posted in the appropriate forum instead of general?
Since apparently this "only concerns" the portion that plays "Warmode".
There's a special forum for that.


Then why are you even in this thread if you can clearly see from the title that it's about Warmode.
Open forum, free to post, and it to me read like a "usual whiner thread" about people not playing Warmode.
13/09/2018 14:12Posted by Avariya
Open forum, free to post, and it to me read like a "usual whiner thread" about people not playing Warmode.


You walked right into that one, didn't you?

If this is an open forum - where it is free to post - why are you telling people that they're not allowed to post here?
13/09/2018 14:15Posted by Flyk
13/09/2018 14:12Posted by Avariya
Open forum, free to post, and it to me read like a "usual whiner thread" about people not playing Warmode.


You walked right into that one, didn't you?

If this is an open forum - where it is free to post - why are you telling people that they're not allowed to post here?


Nice try sweetheart, I never told anyone they couldn't post, I made a suggestion that there is an appropriate forum for this.
13/09/2018 14:16Posted by Avariya
Nice try sweetheart


That's awfully condescending. Did you raise a bunch of nonsense points and get shot down so have now resorted to these kinds of passive aggressive statements? At least you didn't trigger the profanity filter while realizing how invalid your points were, so thanks for that.
you will never force players to do something they dont want to do , it was obvious that added world pvp to pve servers was gonan result in majority of the playerbase switching it off once max level.

its just bad design.
13/09/2018 13:11Posted by Reddan
think it's not just about server imbalance, it's about player mentality.
It absolutely is. If you've ever played BG's extensively on either side, you'll notice how people often go "alliance sucks" when you lose in a bg, but when horde loses it's either silence or the immediate group that gets blamed.

This is the case, even though it's been proven time and time again, statistically win-rates are about even: My own included, by the way... I have an addon that traces win/loss rates.

This stupid mentality bleeds into every aspect of PvP for Alliance. Some people believe, you genuinely become a worse player by playing Alliance.
Hey OP my alt is level 40 running around with WM on and getting ganked by pussy boy horde who like to pick on low levels, but yea sure that's balanced.
13/09/2018 14:19Posted by Darthtoon
you will never force players to do something they dont want to do , it was obvious that added world pvp to pve servers was gonan result in majority of the playerbase switching it off once max level.

its just bad design.

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