If alliance stop being cowards WM would be balanced.

PVP War Mode and World PvP
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That's how great wPvP moments came to be. Tarren Mill vs Southshore, you know this one?


You call it great, I call it horrible.
You remember a huge battle in a zone.
I remember lag on the whole server that lead to a crash eventually.
Nothing 'great' about it.
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13/09/2018 13:13Posted by Tahra
Warmode isn't fun. So no.

Yes it is, but only when you're wasting other people's time.
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13/09/2018 17:10Posted by Canabal
13/09/2018 13:13Posted by Tahra
Warmode isn't fun. So no.

Yes it is, but only when you're wasting other people's time.


Nope. It's horrible. It's fine that its there for the psychos among us, but I'm not doing it.

Well... except for that one time. When I turned it on to do 2 quests. Because Blizzard didn't want to give me a ranged weapon in any of their content, I had to resort to extreme measures and farm some conquest. Hated it. But had to be done.
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13/09/2018 16:55Posted by Reddan
13/09/2018 16:50Posted by Riluo
Of course the alliance are cowards, didn't you learn that over the years? Alliance were always more dominant on PvE servers, they had some exceptions with some PvP servers but the horde were always the most dominant on PvP servers.

Why did anyone think this was going to change?


I don't understand then why the whole majority of alliance complain that warmode is flawed.


All I see is Horde calling out alliance because they don't have WM on.
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I don't understand then why the whole majority of alliance complain that warmode is flawed.

Really, the majority?

I am assuming your still talking about the overal Balance here.
Strange, I just sat down and went through the last 5! pages of the "general forum" and only found 1 post with a total of 2 pages where someone mentioned it was impossible to level up as Alliance.

Other posts mentioning Warfronts was just general discussion topics and suggestions.

So to me in the end this look nothing more then you (the OP) trying to get attention on a non-existing issue that apparently only you can see.

The only reason why I will ever mention that Warmode is flawed is because of the fact that i detest pvp, and Warmode is being forced onto us.
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13/09/2018 13:21Posted by Flyk
reclaim our honour


Can't reclaim what you don't have in the first place ;)
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13/09/2018 13:13Posted by Tahra
Warmode isn't fun. So no.


PvP in general isn't fun. It's a part of the game I've always actively gone out of my way to avoid. I don't see why warmode would change that for me.
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Some people in here have the wrong idea. If you are getting outnumbered grossly, then you are supposed to gather more people to fight with you, not give up and go "well of course I can't 1v5".

The only thing War Mode has proven is that people are so used to win everything in this game that a seemingly trivial task suddenly proving difficult means you give up immediately. Just try and ask in the local chat, guild chat, go to the city and ask in trade: Com'on man... The feature practically begs of you to be more social in the game.

And to the likes of Kooki and Tahra: Why? Why do you always comment on PvP matters when you make it clear that you dislike it. Complete dissonance between your statement and your behavior.
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13/09/2018 13:14Posted by Reddan
Clear example of why the problem is faction mentality rather than number imbalance.


Sorry my dear, that i do not enjoy being ganked by 5 rogues while playing a spec, with which questing is a massive pain in the !@#$ as it is already. And that i do not enjoy being phased into pretty much only horde shards during the first few days of the expansion, where everyone and their mother had warmode activated.

13/09/2018 17:46Posted by Lucardo
Some people in here have the wrong idea. If you are getting outnumbered grossly, then you are supposed to gather more people to fight with you, not give up and go "well of course I can't 1v5".

The only thing War Mode has proven is that people are so used to win everything in this game that a seemingly trivial task suddenly proving difficult means you give up immediately. Just try and ask in the local chat, guild chat, go to the city and ask in trade: Com'on man... The feature practically begs of you to be more social in the game.


I want to do some fcking trivial content. Some fcking world quests, the most boring content in this game, that i only am bound to do, because i need a source of war ressources, to do my emissarys and to hope for that titanforge on those trinkets. It's a task i want to be done with asap, because it is fcking boring. Just as pretty much every bit of content in bfa aside from the raid.
So why should i waste my time first getting ganked while world questing, then realizing that i have no chance of doing something and THEN having to gather people so i can do the bloody thing that was my only intention of doing in the first place?

Summary: Warmode is a massive waste of time unless the reason you do it is the pvp itself.
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In legion I got ganged and outnumbered all the time, now it’s different story. Some more crossrealms or what, but now Alliance almost disappeared somewhere. Feels like in legion I been in a war against them, now it’s quite,peaceful.
Interesting....
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Never tried warfront, nor do i intend too its painful enough being an aff lock doing RBGS. But guess horde rogues will call us cowards, able to sneek up on us and kill us in less than 5 secs or im i soposed to set up gate etc every step. fk warmode.

Also its obvious that devs are so biased to horde side anyway.-

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769157174
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As a player that has been stuck on PvP servers for years, even though I hate PvP, the warmode switch is a very welcome feature. The ability to turn WPvP off is the best thing since sliced bread!

I would have transfered this char and my alts to a PvE server years ago if it weren't for the fact that it would cost me a kidney and my first born son to do so.
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13/09/2018 17:57Posted by Lucardo
Because you aren't entitled to those resources... Why don't you understand something so basic and right in front of you? The reward is to incentivize WPvP, not be the complete and overshadowing picture of it all. If you think of it like this, then the point is lost on you. If you don't want to risk getting ganked then you aren't entitled to those extra resources.


I literally laid out the reason why i don't have !@#$ing warmode on... why dont you understand something so basic?

i literally said, that i dont have warmode on, because i am not %^-*ing itnerested in getting ganked while doing wqs
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i moved to a pve server back in mop for a reason. im just not interested in wpvp plus i dont have so much time to play and do all my wq without being ganked at every spot.
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Gonna add this. Everytime i spawn camp a horde over level 110. they add on bnet and cry how I have no skill. Now I know what to do. I will tell them they don’t can expect any fairness they need to go on their knees and ask other for help to play the single player part of the game
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I can never turn off WM cus I just have to kill orcs and belves. They annoy me the most, oh and cows too.
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13/09/2018 21:14Posted by Varileztra
i literally said, that i dont have warmode on, because i am not %^-*ing itnerested in getting ganked while doing wqs
Yet you still complain about it... Hence my comment.
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lol, all I ever see horde do is group up and gank solo ally players. Real brave
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i literally said, that i dont have warmode on, because i am not %^-*ing itnerested in getting ganked while doing wqs
What about ganking with the option of doing world quest? A mentality switch is a powerful problem solver
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14/09/2018 10:48Posted by Interpol
I see a lot of moaning here about hard times being ganked 5vs1. Ally, gather up your raid and kick horde asses, what's so difficult?

Blizzard made you think that everything comes easy to you. Victory is not an easy task. I remember times when we were trying to kill Ally faction leaders for an achievement, we wiped the whole Stormwind, and then out of nowhere came full raid of Russians. They kicked us out and started to patrol the city. And it was a great fun to feel resistance. We were fighting and scouting for an hour. Not for a reward, not for a new item or anything. Just for feeling being on war with your mates.

We started to develop stealth tactics, tried to jump of the sky, tried to come from the sea. Nothing worked, we were rekt, but nobody was complaining about disbalance, 20vs40.

Now blizzard made another problem: horde players started to enable warmode only for 10%. They are not participating in PvP and you can't rely on them -- they are simply not your brothers in arms.

Just stop being snowflakes. You have all the possibilities to kick horde asses, but you just gave up on a simple communication in local defense to gather some people.


Why should I form a raid every time I want do complete a single WQ, go farm some resources or just run into dungeon ... I cant even count how many times I moved to Nazmir just to see raid of horde players killing people as they get off taxi, I didnt even get to that location and I should already have raid ?

I just finished my WQ round .. 3 PvP encounters ...

First in Voldun, Brine basin, killing mobs with Q item ... Balance druid nearby, attacks me only when second druid comes close ... both die, when they respawn they just pop mount and run away ...

Second in Nazmir, healing Wounds, I just run through everything, stun it and use Q item, when I have 10 mobs on me 50% hp gone, monk attacks me, I beat the hell out of him, he tries to run away with 10% hp ...

Third Zuldazar, Verdant hollow, azerite mining ... Priest and DK (or war didnt see him properly) .. 2 Alliance players beating the crap out of every horde in sight, I think they were in more than 2v4.

What I saw, DK, warr, warlock, DH and priest from horde side. Against 2 alliance players, got their asses handed to them.
They tried to attack someone on opposite side of the Qzone, then these 2 charged in and wiped floor with them.

Tell me again why I need groups, and how alliance players are cowards.

I dont enjoy ganking players 10 v 1 whats the fun in that and people think that outnumbering someone or attacking when they have low hp is fair.
I dont have time to chase some bubbled, fleeing whelp, to enjoy 1v1.