I guarantee you and your entire raid were decked out in ez m+ gear when you cleared heroic. In fact you’re wearing 7 m+ items while claiming raids give more gear😂
You’re only wearing 2 pieces of heroic gear. You cleared heroic N’zoth just once, most likely because by that point you no longer needed gear from the raid, while in past expansions heroic raiding would have been worth doing for months after release. Now you’re getting mythic raid level gear every week from chest while only being 2/12 mythic.
You are a perfect case example proving the point of this thread.
ofc it is you are so good with your two curves you are a master of raiding I see .
reported for insulting comments which come across as racist .
You called players who do keys bad and totally went against what blizzard said mythic+ was all about .
I have far more raiding experience than you honey far more you keep believing you are a big and rough tough person who can belittle others when you are nothing and I mean nothing special yourself .
This debate is not about who is a better raider. The point is that raids don’t give enough incentive anymore. In past expansions raid gear was made desirable thanks to tier bonuses. This made even LFR relevant months after release. Now that tier sets are gone LFR is made irrelevant by world quest gear, normal by emissaries, and even heroic is mostly irrelevant by the second week thanks to spammable m+. The only one worth doing over and over is mythic in BFA. So now we’re back to where we started, where the only relevant raiding is accessible to just a small percent of people.
Since Blizzard puts so much resources into designing raids, it seems strange for them to make everything below mythic raid mostly obsolete by 2-year old repeatable dungeons.
First of all, my claim is not what gives more gear, but what gives BEST gear. And that is without question mythic raiding. And while we are at it, mythic raiding also gives more in terms of quantity (when we talking quality gear).
And why dissect my gear if i clearly told you I do not raid mythic (apart pug 1st few trash bosses)… and you also miss your own point entirely… you talking about spam farmable m+ gear - how many of those that can be spam farmed do I have?
I have 1 piece from end of dungeon loot in m+, 3 pieces from raids (2 heroic, 1 mythic), all the other stuff comes from weekly m+ chest which is not spam farmable by any means. Seeing I dont raid mythic is only logical that most of my gear comes from weekly chest - but that cant be farmed… is 1 per week…
I did way more than 50 runs of 10+ keys… all i have to show for it is one bracer… a 460 bracer with wrong stats and a socket… i wont complain, but you cant really call that a windfall. Pretty meh for 50+ runs, don’t you think? Lot of effort for not so much reward. Well a bracer, for what its worth.
But i do have 4 kills (total) on mythic raid bosses and I got a weapon that I probably wont replace till the end of expansion. Its a 475 bow. Very rewarding indeed for extremely low effort.
See? We got a 460 socketed bracer vs. 475 bow (and 2 other pieces from heroic)… And here am I claiming raids give more gear. Not only more, but also better.
So yeah as you said, I am the perfect example… I don’t even raid mythic (first few bosses really dont count for “raiding mythic”) and yet after 2 months of season I find little to no use for the “oh so great” farmable m+ loot. Now imagine how useful the farmable m+ loot is to someone that actualy raids mythic.
Hope you realize the difference between end of dungeon loot and weekly chest loot… if its 470+ it most definitly didnt came from end of dungeon chest. So that 7 m+ items miraculously turn into 1 m+ item… nice way to destroy your own point.