They removed that system as people were doing it on purpose they are hardly going to bring it back now are they think about it jeez.
Sure why not, I’m not a fan of the residuum grind
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I might be wrong but iirc the devs said something about it during BlizzCon 2019, I think they said that there’s going to be a single chest with multiple rewards which will depend on players’ activities.
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They used to in WoD and Legion from mission table but a % asked for it to be removed because “forced” to raid to get it incase of wf/TF .
Actually ‘spamming’ M+ is not why my M+ character has higher ilevel vs my mythic raiding, it is the better allocation in randomness of weekly-chest drops as well better luck on vendor items.
You only see ilevel and think ‘hey she spammed 10000 dungeons now she is doing better’. No RNG is common problem to both raids and M+.
But PvP players wouldn’t be able to find it and so they have to remove it!
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And thats where u will kill m+. It would basically the same if you wipe x boss in raid u will have to start from the 1st one again. Not gonna happen.
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The problem is that the BFA gearing model revolves around doing one 30-minute dungeon per week for mythic level loot. It ruins the natural gearing progression and makes raiding below mythic pointless.
Who really cares when ilvl means jack this patch. Corruption > anything. My 445 gloves > the 475 i have in my bag purely because of the corruption.
Still using a 430 lfr item over my 465 in my bag. I am using only 2 weekly M+ items because all the others suck. Getting a good item from that weekly chest is winning the lottery. There are also some trinkets in the raid i would like to have.
One 30-minute dungeon per week does not give you a good gearing process at all. If you want to gear with M+ you need to select items you want and farm specific dungeons for specific 465 items.
To get your BIS 475 azerite piece from the vendor takes 10 WEEKS completing a 14 (20k needed, 2.4k from a 14 in chest). Otherwise its every 3 weeks doing a 14 and is random (most of the time you will loose out due to garbage RNG). This is for ONE piece. so for full 3 item BIS (guaranteed) is 30 weeks. 9/10 if you are exceptionally lucky which most are not.
So yes your argument is exceedingly weak. FYI it took me 3 weeks to get my BIS raid bow from Skitra.
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Guys I have thought of an even better solution. All raid drops from LFR to mythic should be corrupted. Boom, suddenly everyone wants to raid again. Even LFR will be brought back to life just like in past expansions.
Thats keys above 15+ not 10s
Thats kinda what this topic is about. Fact you can free spawn +10 and in 1 week everything below mythic raiding will ve absolote for you. They might also judy remove heroic and normal difficulty levels.
Spamming +10 keys give you 455 ilvl. Obviously not thinking yet about trinkets and specific corruptions. Also no azerite gear loot in M+.
In this content, my main got 1 usefull loot, ever since 8.3 from the weekly and many were the same slot.
Yeah game broken
Mythic raid gear is already far superior than anything m+ offers. It is not balanced with m+ nor should it be. Its should be superior.
Now you can say weekly and residium… Yeah each week you get 1 mythic piece and you can gamble 1azerite every few weeks or save up 2months to get one… Great.
All true…
But i say 12 bosses at 20% drop with bonus rolls on top is a lot more 475 gear than 1per week… Than is the 475 trinkets, a lot of them BiS you wont ever see from m+… And ofcourse 485 loot from last 2 bosses… 485 weapons, 485 armor, 490 hand designed azerites… Exclusively available only in raid, all of the above.
So what exactly needs buffing “to balance raiding with m+”?
Raiding is already far superior to m+ in terms of quantity and quality of top tier items. A lot of the best items are only available in raid…
Where can you get a 485 weapon? Not in m+… Even if you spam your spammable m+ every minute while this season lasts you wont get a 485 weapon… Even if this season lasted infinitly long and you could play m+ infinitly long you wouldnt have a 485 weapon. Right? Because 485 gear simply isnt part of m+.
Maybe you dont raid mythic… Neither do i. Thats why we wont get our hands on that sweet 485 weapon… But some already have them… For like 2 months. And they didnt get them from m+. Nope… They got em raiding.
Lmao you’re talking about mythic N’zoth, which has been cleared by maybe 50 people worldwide? You people only want to talk about mythic, ever consider that 3 other difficulties exist? I have yet to see a single argument justifying the vast difference in loot thrown at you from m+ vs heroic raid, even if you completely ignore the chest and residuum.
30-minute +11: 60% chance at 460 loot. 1.2 pieces per hour. Spammable non-stop.
Heroic raid boss: 20% chance at 460 loot. 0.4 pieces per hour. Weekly lockout.
It’s not equal. This was done in attempt to appease “casuals” who can’t be bothered to learn new mechanics and coordinate with other people.
Shows how clueless you are
Mythic + was designed for people in small guilds ,groups of friends and small communties to have a challenge .
You have no idea what you are on about and you doing herioc means you are “casual” yourself . Stop trying to demean and belittle others just because you struggle at the game .
Even more reason for the exclusive rewards it offers!
And no… there is more than 100 guilds that cleared mythic nzoth… so thats a lot more than 50 people…
There is one thing you don’t seem to grasp… when we talking loot, like serious loot, not some 445 ring you get from tortola emissary… in such terms the 460 or 465 loot is trash… and seeing you like math (i do too)… here is the formula:
Heroic raid: 5 pieces of trash gear… 5x0=0
M+ farm: infinite pieces of trash gear… nx0=0
And trust me when I say it… clearing heroic raid is a lot easier for a “casual” than farming m+ keys…
And dont let me start on first 2 bosses of mythic (Wrathion and Skittra and even maybe Muar)… those reward 475 gear for something that is infinitely easier than doing a +15.
ah yes of course doing a +15 same dungeon as +1 just bigger numbers which involves aoeing some trash down and killing bosses that have been around since the beginning of the expansion which you don’t even have to time btw to get loot + the weekly chest is infinitely harder than hoping the 19 apes in your group/guild don’t die to some simple mechanic and wipe you so you have to start over again
of course buddy of course m+ is harder hahahaha
it’s designed so people who are bad at the game that can only do easy 5man content and feel as strong as people who waste hours progressing on a single raid boss a night kek
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