If you think Vault on Normal is hard:

If a text between 3 and 5 sentences long is “a bunch of text”, then I would assume that the person reading it can get no help from it. To be fair, that person should get some real life help because mental deficiency is not a joke.

It’s Lillith, are you surprised? This person’s last brain cell has been bouncing around their skull like the DVD logo for as long as I can remember this forum existing.

it is to hard everything what needs more then 1 bottom is to hard :rofl:

“…To be fair, that person should get some real life help because mental deficiency is not a joke”

Well, at least your name checks out little keyboard warrior

Ok, but did I say anything wrong or factually incorrect? If you can’t understand and absorb 3 sentences of information in a game, what are you even doing in your life?

Ok, if that is your opinion. But why would that invalidate the wish to make the actual gameplay more clear and/or intuitive?

Not everyone is as good as die-hard wow players who do mythic raiding etc…so guilds have social members, and then it can take some time, nobody is complaining, it just takes longer. This is just a wannabee-elite post.

We are talking about normal raiding not mythic.

There are social guilds and raid groups to who do not want to be die hard mythic and just have a relaxed normal raid.

What about it is? Can you be more clear? All the post says is that Normal raiding is not hard if you put even the tiniest amount of effort into it starting by finding a group that fits your goals and standarts.

So who is saying NM is too hard? People who normally do and are used to NM raiding, aren’t saying that.

Plus, what you did was saying if people DO say that, they’re just not good enough, straight to the offense. Hence my Elitist (wannabee :slight_smile: ) comment

As explained in the post there just recently was a post exactly claiming that normal raiding is to hard. Also explained in the post its a topic strongly pushed by asmongold every time he can’t clear a new raid day 1 with a bunch of randomes without bringing consumables, clear communication or looking up any strategys. It’s also something people who Pug raid often say which honestly has nothing to do with real raiding.

No i sayed they might not be as good as they think they are. Because obviously they feel entitled to clearing normal yet it proves to mutch of a challange for them and instead of thinking what they could do better, they say the problem lies in the raid design.

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A post, so that doesn’t mean everyone thinks that :smiley: there’s many posts here, this forum is mostly complainers anyways :wink:

I agree with your previous post btw. Yeah some people look for a challenge, and some look for walks in the park, that is wow. I also like a challenge, I don’t even play any metas. When my main became a meta, I played something else, I don’t want it easy!

The post was just an example. It’s a consense i heared a few times now be it on the forums, twitter or on some streamers platform and i can’t imagine that it comes from anybody who puts any significant amount of effort into their Raid experience beyond opening up LFG and looking for a group there. As i sayed i’m in a rather casual raid group and after the first few attempts we had the raid clear pretty easy. All while laughing having a good time and joking around in voice. But there is already a difference to Puggers. We use a voice chat to communicate. We also use consumables. We also linked a short 3 minute guide video before every boss and watched it together.

We are not a hardcore “YOU MUST BE HERE” mythic raiding giga guild with 5 raid ready alts. We are just some people who play together regardless of if your specc is meta or not. But we all have one thing in common: We all did put in the tine tiny amount of effort to find us a static raid group.

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Do I really need to send my hunter to you, to tame you??? :smiley:

Well we do have a concerning amount of Worgens in our Raid group so i think your hunter would aggro the others as well while taming. So you should better set some ice traps.

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we hunters has mind controll we can turn anyone to a pet …

Good tip! Let’s get it done :wink: lol

Indeed
A proper leader has to know the healer to damage dealer ratio, has to be able to assign people on groups based on how the fight need to unfold and of course to also know what each person should be doing.
A great leader will also directly guide the raid from discord.

A responsible would be leader will either try to learn these or avoid to be a leader.
“Leaders” who just invite based on ilvl & achivements and hope the raid will run itself, make me roll my eyes (At least if they are not being humble).

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If y’all think Vault on normal is easy, wait for the classic Ulduar :joy::ok_hand::skull::skull:

Or maybe we just compare it to older raids cause ya know

Blizzard caters to addon users and builds raids around addons.

its definiatly harder then legion raids. I did not play sl etxept for Nathria and I personally think its harder then that too.

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It’s hard in a fun way. The only part of the game where it actually feels like MMO where you need to interact with people and use the chat.

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