That comparison makes absolute no sense. Try again.
Who from AD broke the TOS?
? What does this mean. Donât vaguepost.
So, to restate, do I agree with this position: âpeople who disrupt RP should be removedâ. Well, I agree with this one: âpeople who disrupt RP should be sanctionedâ. Which is the current rules. I suppose repeat offenses eventually result in a permanent ban, so we already have that.
Just go to any of the threads on the forums for PVE/Raiding guilds etc and look at the replies.
Youâll get one or two reasonable replies and then a lot of trolling from genuinly garbage people.
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You mean into threads of guilds who are ruining AD? Yes. Telling OOClers to look for a different server is not breaking anything.
They will be gone like the PVP servers, if people canât stop behaving like genuinly horrible people, itâd be more cost effective to remove the tag, than to provide the even token moderation and baby sitting they provide now.
100% of people who moved to AD who I recognized from Shaâtar (or them who recognized me) answered growing OOCer numbers and lack of actual RP as the reason to why they moved to another realm
Thatâs a small sample size of atleast 30-40 people, but itâs still 100%
Because asking if you will roleplay on a roleplaying server is trolling. 
And you would not be against putting in stricter rules to more effeciently remove those that disrupt roleplaying ?
Genuinly horrible people, those are the words that you are going to use ?
Okay then, do you know what people have said, or done again and again towards those âhorribleâ people ?
They donât, if we have good moderation, things like this would never have happened, because guess what, the people who disrupt roleplaying would have been silenced/suspended long ago.
Can you see into the future ?
Stricter moderation, being able to report actions with the intent of purely disrupting roleplay, such as chat spam, toy spam, stand on you with a mount etc, and get it taken seriously and actually moderated, just punishing disruptive behaviour, really, maybe even hire in a few more moderators for argent dawn.
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You say it yourself - OOCers were one of the perceived reasons. The other reason was âlack of RPâ. Which is the real reason, common to all such things. People clusterize around a couple of centers because at first, there is a perception that there are more people âthereâ, and then people start moving and this perception quickly becomes reality, snowballing. This is why RP moved to AD. Same for how PVP moved to Stormscale + Outland back in the day, etc.
Depends on what specifically you have in mind. Look, I am not trying to weasel out. Itâs just that you are being too vague. Sit on a mount â banned for a week, then for a month, then forever, no, thatâs too harsh. Something tamer - might be fine. But specifics matter. And keep in mind that RPers are just a fraction of all people. Yes, on AD.
Not perceived reasons, THE reasons
When they were motivated by the amount of OOCers compared to the amount of RPers (think of it as a ratio) then OOCer presence is THE reason.
Itâs not like they were analysts studying a group of RPers to find out why they might, it was the actual RPers themselves giving their own unfiltered reasons.
The reason everyone moved to AD is very simple, it has always been the biggest one, it has the most RPers, which will always sound better to RPers sick of not being able to find anyone in major RP hubs like capital cities
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I edited my reply above to add in all the things, but about the mount part, if it is specifically on several roleplayers or on a roleplayers, then yes, I do believe they should get atleast silenced for that, if they continiue, suspension.
Iâve had someone, not even joking, that thought it was funny to park a mammot ontop of me for an hour, it gets tiring, really fast.
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This assumes that people always gravitate towards âmoreâ for the sake of more rather than finding âenoughâ. WHy on earth would somebody who is comfortable with an RP group of say 20 individuals whom they know pay to move to AD because they have 100 more there whom they donât know?
Whilst in some arenas this idea of gravitating towards a center makes sense, it largely only applies in situations where the perception of more always being better is present (which is probably not the case in a hobby based upon social interactions, as the quality of those interactions declines the more of them you field, this is why people donât seek to constantly make more and more friends endlessly) and also it neglects the fact that something may have prompted the move (which could have been OOC behaviour).
Itâs totally plausible that RP groups on these servers moved because the quality of their RP group they were happy with, was facing issues in the form of disruption/lack of places to RP/griefing. You seem to be suggesting that the principal reason is that a lot of the Rpers randomly decided to move because âAD has moreâ and there was no real reason for that move beyond their desire to seek out more RP.
As said this doesnât make sense unless the RP community doesnât field them appropriately in the first place because RPers tend to have a social group/groups they interact with at a comfortable degree and they maintain that number largely. Also if theyâre engaged in working RP on their server, itâs largely irrelevant of what happens on AD, because unless they were regularly browsing AD forums rather than looking at their own, how would they know what was beyond the horizon?
What we do know is that despite it being anecdotal, an awful lot of the people on these servers reported that âOnce upon a timeâ RP was enough for them to sustain and have RP whenever they wanted, and then at some point people start moving to AD. You would have us believe they simply moved because they decided they âwanted moreâ or for some other reason, and ignore the several similar accounts that it was them moving to AD for more RP because the RP on their server was diminishing due to OOC influence. The two are connected.
Were you on one of these servers during the periods they were declining in RP? Iâm not joking when I say you would have guilds that on their âoff daysâ from raiding and stuff would go out of their way to find and mock Rpers/be a pest on their events as a way to âkill timeâ and this was well known and it wasnât being actioned on the blueâs part. This pushes RPers out of most of the hubs until theyâre left with next to nothing, it is then that AD begins to look appetizing because of the higher volume.
And when I say âtrack down to lollerâ I mean track down, as in the RPers would move out of the capitol hubs to a different hub, and the guilds in question would try to work out where they had gone and proceed to go to the new hub. It was something of an informal sport. Even if only a few guilds did it, having a group of 20+ people regularly turn up to your RP with no intention of engaging in good faith, trolling, memeing and sometimes more disruptive behaviour can easily kill enthusiasm to continue in that situation.
itâs very hard to âfilter it outâ when the screen is literally full of people on mammoths ânot doing anything wrong iâm just choosing to AFK here ;)â which so happens to be coincidentally wherever youâre deciding to RP. Or they just happen to be âRPing a bunch of mammoth caravan tradersâ right on top of you every single time.
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Not to mention that some people might have issues with focusing, attention span can be short and when you get a giant mammoth leaping on you and then you need to pay attention to emotes, respond to them and register other things. But hey, OOCers obviously need to do the content here 
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A little tip with this, off topic, but have you installed listener ? It is so great for keeping track of emotes.
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Oh definitely, this was issue in the past but it definitely still happens to others when they shouldnât deal with it in the first place.
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True that.
There are a lot of RPers who enjoy RPing on the smaller realms because of the communal feel. The thing is however it doesnât take much for RP to be disrupted. A single person can chug some size enhancers and mount up on a clefthoof or a mammoth and run around on a bunch of RPers spamming the chat and if youâre a smaller group of RPers you wonât have enough clout in your reports to get rid of them. This is how the Shaâtar died, because the equation really is RPers get trolled by vicious OOCers and proceed to leave RP or leave the server for one like Argent Dawn where 40 RPers in Cathedral Square will be able to report someone enough to see that they receive consequences.
The AD RP community donât mind OOCers so much as they care about the mindset some OOCers bring to the table. Especially because of the fabled âhigh quality, single shard PVPâ you get on AD and the help of YouTubers who point at RP and make it look fun to troll it you get a certain type of OOCer coming to AD who are used to pwning noobz or coolly trolling RP like X YouTuber. These are the problems, and technically the original RP server rules still exist which are directly attuned towards supporting the RP community, but unfortunately because Blizzard made the jump from physical GMs to distanced, automated ticketing system, itâs far harder for those rules to be enforced even though when enough RPers fire reports at once you still see names getting changed and trolls being silenced or suspended.
RP servers are still very much attuned towards RP, itâs just that because Blizzard are no longer as willing to moderate their game a lot of RPers take it into their own hands to ensure that people who would seek to ruin other peoples RP understand that theyâre going to get a cold reception.
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In general, I am OK with all that.